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Can anyone explain the discussion they had about eneloops in the Black Friday stream?

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Like why is the non pros better than the Pro's for controllers?

 

What is the Pro and the non pro meant for and whats the difference?

 

I want one for my xbox series controller but should i NOT  get the Pro's?

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https://eneloop101.com/batteries/eneloop-pro/#eneloop-vs-eneloop-pro

 

Eneloop pro is 'best' for high discharge or high drain devices like camera flashes to recharge faster. They are really used for pushing more amps and keeping the voltage higher for a bit longer. The Pro's are said to have 25% more capacity than regular eneloops so devices should run longer.

 

Pros are not great for controllers since most people end up running the controller until dead and then charge up, this rapidly degrades the Pros. Normal Eneloops are more resilient to this even if they last less time per charge.

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Yeah. Think of the Pros as the regular Eneloop batteries but with the chemistry optimized to be more "aggressive" - they can charge and hold a bit more energy (ex 2450 mAh vs 2100mAh) and they're a bit better at things like flash cameras that take bursts of energy from the batteries and at things like toys with motors or things that pull a significant amount of energy.

The downside of this aggressive chemistry is that the battery degrades faster, hence the maximum of 500 recharges, and the faster self-discharge  (voltage going down on its own over time) compared to the standard battery.

 

Think of it like two different balloon materials - the standard can hold a gallon of water  and the water can come out in 20 seconds , while the pros can hold a gallon and a quarter and the nozzle is a bit bigger and water can come out at faster rate if you want to, but over time the material "sweats" and leaks some water over time  if the balloon just sits pressurized with the water inside it... and the material is also more sensitive about being stretched by refilling, so it gets damaged much faster over time.

 

A game controller uses a fairly constant amount of power, and it's fairly low amount, so the advantages of Pros are pointless in controllers - you don't need bursts of current, the extra capacity won't really help you (it's like playing for 8 hours vs playing for 7 and a half hours - you'll just replace the batteries when the controller says low battery and plug the used batteries in the charger.

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