asus z690-a d4 ram question

[Amd-guy]

i just got this board and was thinking about running some fast ddr4 in it. i currently have crucial 3600 speed running xmp. I was curious if something like 4600 or 4800 would make a difference, and if the board will run it stable with xmp setting for 4600 or 4800. i know the memory controller on 12th gen is suppose to be really good but still wanted to ask. thanks 

[Amd-guy]

Hope someone has some insight on this 

[Amd-guy]

no one has any insight?

[Guest]

Faster memory always has some sort of impact on system performance. I say "system" because that's what it is. System memory. So the performance should increase with everything you do. If you can tell the difference without measurements would remain to be seen.

 

Most memory running that fast is NOT a set XMP and forget it. It generally takes time and board/memory training to accomplish high frequencies like 4600mhz and up.

 

Mostly, Intel's sweet spot through the years is about 4000mhz. Diminishing returns start to happen past this frequency. The $$ per Mhz starts getting a little crazy with those really fast kits. 

[Amd-guy]

So would ddr4 2x16gb 4000 speed be set it and go with xmp thought maybe 4000 was hard to get 4000 xmp... thanks 

[IkeaGnome]

16 minutes ago, Amd-guy said:

So would ddr4 2x16gb 4000 speed be set it and go with xmp thought maybe 4000 was hard to get 4000 xmp... thanks 

I'd look more into this if I were you and stick with 3600 or 3200 mhz.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-ddr4-vs-ddr5/4.html

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, Amd-guy said:

So would ddr4 2x16gb 4000 speed be set it and go with xmp thought maybe 4000 was hard to get 4000 xmp... thanks 

Well I have only 4267mhz and 3600mhz B-Die kits. The 3600mhz I have to overclock to 4000mhz obviously, and the 4267mhz does not post right up with XMP without enabling the memory training that my ROG bios has equipped. It will however post 4000mhz with XMP enabled and manually set up timings. So there may be some playing around to achieve those higher frequencies. 

 

The 3600mhz XMP memory kits with timings of 16-16-16-36 will post XMP without issues on most systems. 

 

 

[Amd-guy]

does it have to be the " b die" ive seen alot of people saying gskill kits were hit or miss on here and people saying same for corsair. seems crucial works though... odd

[DarkSmith2]

7 hours ago, Amd-guy said:

does it have to be the " b die" ive seen alot of people saying gskill kits were hit or miss on here and people saying same for corsair. seems crucial works though... odd

Dont even know how to reply to this post. Its in itself so uneducated and biased.

"B-DiE" is just a name for an "IC" manufactured by Samsung specced in a certain way, Every RAM manufacturer/seller could use them on their sticks.

"B-Die" is known to perform the best out of all possible IC's for DDR4, higher overclocks, tighter timings. Its a quality feature to have B-Die ICs on your RAM.

 

As for everything else, yes corsair is known to kinda often set XMP profiles up with very tight DRAM voltage. But this can happen with any other brand too.
Deciding factor is the KIT itself you are buying and weither or not its good, or if you've been lucky with the silicon lottery thats involved, not the brand.

 

The best performing kit you can buy is probably THIS: F4-4000C14D-32GTZR, (GTZN/GVK) its very expansive, very high binned, bdie dual ranked. and pobably needs manual fine tuning. Do you need this? No, certainly not. as @ShrimpBrimealready told you, you would be fine with any 3600CL16 Kit.

[PC,Grave,Robber]

On 11/24/2021 at 11:52 AM, Amd-guy said:

i just got this board and was thinking about running some fast ddr4 in it. i currently have crucial 3600 speed running xmp. I was curious if something like 4600 or 4800 would make a difference, and if the board will run it stable with xmp setting for 4600 or 4800. i know the memory controller on 12th gen is suppose to be really good but still wanted to ask. thanks 

I have a Strix Z690 D4

E cores disabled for more OC headroom on cache and

?memory?

7c14T

(we don't talk about P-core5)

~All Core@5300mhz

Cache@5100mhz

Memory@4600mhz

 

 

kit of ddr4 4500 that can run at XMP Frequencies,, not 1 click friendly.. I can post with XMP 1 which only loads primary timings if I change volt to auto or 1.5,, Havnt put too much effort but havnt posted with Xmp2 All timings primary and sub.,  I belive this is due to my Xmp spd profile having a single timing with its minimum parameter instead of the actual xmp parameter.. Based on a hunch via HWinfo64's summary memory info vs bios spd info

 

45*100 being an odd multiplyer  *footnoted* in strix z690 D4 bios it states 1:2 (gear two) will not work with odd multipliyers.. it automatically adjusts base clock, @102.3 base clk. I've ran OC with 169 base on this board but there is a chance that this could of made things less likley to Just Work.

 

 

Team Groups EXTREEM ud4500 8gbx2 16gb dual channel kit. 18.20.20.44..1.45v

 

On msi Mpg z390 edge ac ran at about~4000..

 

on Asus pro z390 WS ran at

~3750..maybe 

 

Definitely seems more capable then 9th gen Core. I didnt build a 10th or 11th gen intel platform.

 

intel really should advertise the performance w/ e cores disabled aswell,

To much a headache perhaps,,,