Looking for RAM & Cooler advice (Ryzen 5900x & Asus B550F)

[Brumdabumdada]

Hey!

 

Here's my updated list, I just got the 3080 so there's the point of no return.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QjN9fP

 

Important is that it's a quiet build, I initially wanted to give it a nice look with distinct RGB, but then realized the updated CPU 5900x needs as much cooling as it could possibly get so here are my two questions:

1. What RAM do you recommend for this build? Initially aiming for the Trident Neo 3600 CL16 but realized that 

• 1a) they might not fit depending on the cooler I choose.
• 1b) they might not be visible depending on the cooler I choose.

2. What cooler would you recommend?

 

It's like a vicious cycle I am stuck in right now and could need some help, haha.

 

Thanks guys!

 

[da na]

Well the cooler you have on the PCPP list will work well, if you wanted to go the AIO route a Liquid Freezer 2 or 3 would be good but I feel the Noctua one is fine.

 

Then for RAM, the Trident should fit and if you really care about the lighting it should be visible.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

The list is good as is. The NH-D15 supports a RAM height of up to 64mm, and the Trident Z are 45mm high.

[Chris Pratt]

The 5900X is not actually that hard to cool. The D15 will work fine, but compatibility could be an issue. If you want to avoid that, you could go for a U12A instead. It has nearly the same performance as a D15 with zero compatibility issues. I would have gotten a U12A myself, but at the time, it wasn't available in chromax.black. That's no longer an issue, though.

 

I went with an Artic Liquid Freezer II 280, instead, and it works a treat. There's no compatibility issues unless you top mount it, but then you just need to make sure your case has enough top clearance. It was barely enough with the Corsair 4000D, I have.

[Chris Pratt]

6 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

The list is good as is. The NH-D15 supports a RAM height of up to 64mm, and the Trident Z are 45mm high.

* With the RAM side fan removed. You might as well get a D15S if you're going that route.

[herb]

1 hour ago, Brumdabumdada said:

Hey!

 

Here's my updated list, I just got the 3080 so there's the point of no return.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QjN9fP

 

Important is that it's a quiet build, I initially wanted to give it a nice look with distinct RGB, but then realized the updated CPU 5900x needs as much cooling as it could possibly get so here are my two questions:

1. What RAM do you recommend for this build? Initially aiming for the Trident Neo 3600 CL16 but realized that 

• 1a) they might not fit depending on the cooler I choose.
• 1b) they might not be visible depending on the cooler I choose.

2. What cooler would you recommend?

 

It's like a vicious cycle I am stuck in right now and could need some help, haha.

 

Thanks guys!

 

i recommend you get the Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 and Trident Z Neo 3600 CL14 Dimms. They are a good combination and the dimms shouldn't interfere much with the cooler.

 

the dark rock pro 4 is more than capable of cooling the 5900x and the ram is some of the best stuff out there for ryzen. if you pick both of these up you will be set for a long time.

[herb]

also if you haven't bought the ram yet keep this in mind. a 4 stick kit will give your cpu better mem bandwidth and it will likely increase performance a little bit but if you plan to upgrade to 64 gb later down the road stick with a 2 stick kit.

 

if 32gb is enough (which personally, i think its enough) then get a 4 stick kit

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just get a d15s and rams wise if you dont care about extensive ram tuning then go for some cheaper 3200mhz cl16 rams and oc to 3600mhz, tridentz neos are good overclocking rams so waste of money if you dont bother spending abit of time tuning them

[herb]

Just now, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Just get a d15s and rams wise if you dont care about extensive ram tuning then go for some cheaper 3200mhz cl16 rams and oc to 3600mhz, tridentz neos are good overclocking rams so waste of money if you dont bother spending abit of time tuning them

when i built my ryzen pc i did what you are suggesting. when i built my ryzen pc i bought cheap 3200 cl 16 dimms and they run at xmp and nothing more. they oc like garbage. dont buy cheap dimms, the extra money isnt worth the lost performance and frustration with trying to get a stable oc

[herb]

im actually going to buy some trident z neos because of how disappointing my current dimms are

[Somerandomtechyboi]

50 minutes ago, herb said:

when i built my ryzen pc i did what you are suggesting. when i built my ryzen pc i bought cheap 3200 cl 16 dimms and they run at xmp and nothing more. they oc like garbage. dont buy cheap dimms, the extra money isnt worth the lost performance and frustration with trying to get a stable oc

Eh not much diff between 3200 and 3600 anyways so i wouldnt bother unless you can run 36-3800 cl15 or lower with new dimms, thats where the performance is at, latency

[brob]

It seems to me that there is little point in getting Trident Z or any other RGB memory modules when one is planning to use an NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 4. Both coolers cover most of the memory area so the lighting is not really visible.

 

I'd suggest https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KkqBD3/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4b instead.

 

[herb]

2 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Eh not much diff between 3200 and 3600 anyways so i wouldnt bother unless you can run 36-3800 cl15 or lower with new dimms, thats where the performance is at, latency

i told him to get 3600 cl14. that has amazing latencies

1 hour ago, brob said:

It seems to me that there is little point in getting Trident Z or any other RGB memory modules when one is planning to use an NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 4. Both coolers cover most of the memory area so the lighting is not really visible.

 

I'd suggest https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KkqBD3/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4b instead.

 

i gave the ram suggestion really just because its really good stuff. the rgb is just a bonus

[Brumdabumdada]

Would you guys recommend an AIO instead then? I've switched the 500dx for a 5000D of Corsair now, filled will Noctua fans. A little bit bling would be nice I guess but AIO seems so much more senseless than aircooler?  (if so, which AIO :)?)

[herb]

14 minutes ago, Brumdabumdada said:

Would you guys recommend an AIO instead then? I've switched the 500dx for a 5000D of Corsair now, filled will Noctua fans. A little bit bling would be nice I guess but AIO seems so much more senseless than aircooler?  (if so, which AIO :)?)

i dont recommend an aio. top end air cooler match their performance for less money and less risk

[Chris Pratt]

8 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Eh not much diff between 3200 and 3600 anyways so i wouldnt bother unless you can run 36-3800 cl15 or lower with new dimms, thats where the performance is at, latency

Really tired of this totally wrong take. 1) It does make a big diff for multiple CCD designs like the 5900X and 2) it's application specific. For gaming, maybe it won't matter much, but for a lot of productivity tasks, it will absolutely matter... A lot in many cases. Given the 5900X, it's safe to assume this is not exclusively for gaming.

[Chris Pratt]

2 hours ago, herb said:

i dont recommend an aio. top end air cooler match their performance for less money and less risk

Top end air coolers can match 240, maybe some 280 rads, but a good 280 or larger will absolutely outperform the best air cooler. Whether you need that extra cooling performance is a separate matter, but it's not correct to say air coolers can match any AIO.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

8 hours ago, herb said:

i told him to get 3600 cl14. that has amazing latencies

 

Issue is the rams gonna be really expensive, just get the cl18 stuff and oc to cl15/14

 

8 hours ago, herb said:

i gave the ram suggestion really just because its really good stuff. the rgb is just a bonus

Tridentz neo is optimized for ryzen so yea some really good rams, might consider them once their price drops like a rock due to ddr5

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

Really tired of this totally wrong take. 1) It does make a big diff for multiple CCD designs like the 5900X and 2) it's application specific. For gaming, maybe it won't matter much, but for a lot of productivity tasks, it will absolutely matter... A lot in many cases. Given the 5900X, it's safe to assume this is not exclusively for gaming.

Tbh its only worth it when you upgrade from 3200 cl16 to 3800 cl16/15 or 3600 cl15/14 since diff is pretty minor between 3200 and 3600 alone, needs to be paired with a latency decrease or a bigger ram speed increase to be a worthwhile upgrade

[Chris Pratt]

2 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Tbh its only worth it when you upgrade from 3200 cl16 to 3800 cl16/15 or 3600 cl15/14 since diff is pretty minor between 3200 and 3600 alone, needs to be paired with a latency decrease or a bigger ram speed increase to be a worthwhile upgrade

There's more of a benefit, sure, but getting the FCLK higher is enough reason on its own. Again, that's for multiple CCD designs though. What you're saying would be true for a 5600X, for example, just not a 5900X.

[Brumdabumdada]

17 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

Really tired of this totally wrong take. 1) It does make a big diff for multiple CCD designs like the 5900X and 2) it's application specific. For gaming, maybe it won't matter much, but for a lot of productivity tasks, it will absolutely matter... A lot in many cases. Given the 5900X, it's safe to assume this is not exclusively for gaming.

Ah thank you, yea, exactly - the PC is also for rendering, especially After Effects, that's the reason I am willing to spend a higher amount on suitable stuff. I see you've got the Artic Liquid Freezer II, I am considering the ICUE H150i Elite Capellix so a 360. The case will be a Corsair 5000D at this point, filled with Noctua fans. That's the reason I was asking for a comparison between AIO&air coolers. I know have to pick something and if the 360aio keeps it cold, I'll take it for the look and get a slightly louder noise level if I change the configuration of these fans' speed. I've seen in a video how difficult it got to adjust the GPU/CPU cooler at a later point once they are all build in and since I am not sure if I will keep all components it might be easier for me to change parts anyways. 

[brob]

Arctic also has a 360 AIO with argb fans.