Should I buy a MacBook Pro M1 pro in order to play dota2?

[buklu]

I think it will reduce more heat in gaming

[Fasauceome]

Much cheaper computers can play dota. What do you have now?

[sub68]

4 minutes ago, buklu said:

I think it will reduce more heat in gaming

Seeing the game it will not overheat.

I think a 2013 macbook air could run it for cheap.

[jaslion]

9 minutes ago, buklu said:

I think it will reduce more heat in gaming

No? I mean 500$ computers can play that game no problem and heat generation would be basically the same. Is it that much of a problem that a laptop would make your room too hot?

 

Also the m1 very much so is not intended as a gaming device and it is clear the way apple is pushing it that it isn't.

[Jurrunio]

How desperate are you in terms of reducing heat? It's probably the best CPU to play dota with less than 20w power draw but it just costs so much compared to say, 50w windows laptops

[sub68]

8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Also the m1 very much so is not intended as a gaming device and it is clear the way apple is pushing it that it isn't.

Well dota is on steam and it's available for macos.

[jaslion]

11 minutes ago, sub68 said:

Well dota is on steam and it's available for macos.

I'm aware it is emulated however. The rosetta emulation is good but it's still not like running native and as other said it's pretty stupid to spend 2000 on a laptop for a game that runs on basically anything. The the fact the m1 isn't made for gaming adds on to it not being the best choice.

[sub68]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

I'm aware it is emulated however. The rosetta emulation is good but it's still not like running native 

Yeah

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

it's pretty stupid to spend 2000 on a laptop for a game that runs on basically anything. The the fact the m1 isn't made for gaming adds on to it not being the best choice

Yep it is stupid

[LogicalDrm]

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[Roswell]

On 10/25/2021 at 8:59 AM, jaslion said:

I'm aware it is emulated however. The rosetta emulation is good but it's still not like running native and as other said it's pretty stupid to spend 2000 on a laptop for a game that runs on basically anything. The the fact the m1 isn't made for gaming adds on to it not being the best choice.

Rosetta isn’t emulation though, it is running natively through instruction set translation.

[jaslion]

30 minutes ago, Roswell said:

Rosetta isn’t emulation though, it is running natively through instruction set translation.

That is not running native but indeed also not emulation. A bit like how Python works but then in reverse.

[Roswell]

31 minutes ago, jaslion said:

That is not running native but indeed also not emulation. A bit like how Python works but then in reverse.

If code isn’t being emulated, it’s running on native hardware. It’s one or the other.

[jaslion]

5 minutes ago, Roswell said:

If code isn’t being emulated, it’s running on native hardware. It’s one or the other.

But it's not running native as it has to translate it to code that can run natively. So it's best to call it a translation layer software.

 

Either way since the software has to be translated it is not ideal for gaming.

[Roswell]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

But it's not running native as it has to translate it to code that can run natively. So it's best to call it a translation layer software.

 

Either way since the software has to be translated it is not ideal for gaming.

By that logic, games using DX aren’t natively running on your GPU.

[jaslion]

3 hours ago, Roswell said:

By that logic, games using DX aren’t natively running on your GPU.

Thats different. This is actively translating so the os and everything knows what is up.

[Battlesheep]

On 10/25/2021 at 2:30 PM, sub68 said:

Seeing the game it will not overheat.

I think a 2013 macbook air could run it for cheap.

My 2015 13" Macbook Pro had extreme problems with running Dota 2 at minimum settings, so I wouldn't be so quick with that.

[Roswell]

3 hours ago, jaslion said:

Thats different. This is actively translating so the os and everything knows what is up.

They both "translate". They're both intermediaries that allow code that normally would not run on native hardware/software to run natively. DX is making API calls and Rosetta is making calls to x86_64 instruction sets. Both have overhead because of this, both run code natively.

[jaslion]

7 hours ago, Roswell said:

They both "translate". They're both intermediaries that allow code that normally would not run on native hardware/software to run natively. DX is making API calls and Rosetta is making calls to x86_64 instruction sets. Both have overhead because of this, both run code natively.

The difference here is that Rosetta translates but Direct X is a "learned language" so to say. One is actively converting to something the m1 can understand whilst the other is calling functions that it can now read.