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Good riddance!

 

Welcome to the bright side Linus! 🙂

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One thing that has long intrigued me is why the only other option always is Linux. Now, I have nothing against Linux. (other than the viral nature of the GPL license.)

 

But surely there is more alternatives out there?

 

Like the various BSD distros, would be interesting to see a video or three showing them off a bit. Even if they might be a bit inept if all one does is gaming, but for people who use their computers for more traditional work applications, how easy is it to run on BSD?

 

Then there is a literally list of other OSes out there, though I have no clue how applicable they are for modern computing systems. Could maybe be an interesting video concept, "find the oddest OS that still can do modern tasks." similar to that odd PCI/PCIe card video where Alex grabbed an Oscilloscope.

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Can yall link to the 100 Gbe SMB docs please?

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55 minutes ago, Nystemy said:

One thing that has long intrigued me is why the only other option always is Linux. Now, I have nothing against Linux. (other than the viral nature of the GPL license.)

 

But surely there is more alternatives out there?

 

Like the various BSD distros, would be interesting to see a video or three showing them off a bit. Even if they might be a bit inept if all one does is gaming, but for people who use their computers for more traditional work applications, how easy is it to run on BSD?

Did you watch the video? They end up using TrueNAS which is FreeBSD based. That's probably one of the better applications and best way to showcase BSD.

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13 minutes ago, gcs8 said:

Can yall link to the 100 Gbe SMB docs please?

think I found it https://codeinsecurity.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/setting-up-smb-multi-channel-between-freenas-or-any-bsd-linux-and-windows-for-20gbps-transfers/

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5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Did you watch the video? They end up using TrueNAS which is FreeBSD based. That's probably one of the better applications and best way to showcase BSD.

Yes, but that largely doesn't change my statement.

Aside from TrueNAS and PFsense, BSD rarely ever gets mentioned. It is like it doesn't exist despite having been some of the major server OSes for the past nearly three decades.

 

Though, the different BSD distros has generally been optimized for various rather niche tasks, so it is somewhat understandable how it might not be the most generally applicable set of OSes out there.

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1 minute ago, GodAtum said:

Should get Truenas scale, thats Linux based.

too beta, I wouldn't trust it yet.

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14 minutes ago, Nystemy said:

Though, the different BSD distros has generally been optimized for various rather niche tasks, so it is somewhat understandable how it might not be the most generally applicable set of OSes out there.

That's probably why it doesn't get much coverage (from LTT at least). Off the top of my head I only know FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Other than TrueNAS for things that LTT would possibly cover there's pfsense. Other than that everything is probably going to be extremely niche and specialised as you said. I wouldn't really consider BSD/its derivatives to be a desktop OS.

There's probably some other YouTube channels that have more of a focus on server side stuff that would probably be better suited for other BSD stuff and properly breaking down those more specialised applications of it. Does level1tech cover it?

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what software did they use to transfer in windows where it got 20Gbs i can barely get 10mbps outta my ssd on windows 11

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Why don't you use linux with NFS or CIFS on the ingest stations so it wouldn't be bootlenecked by windows and NFS, also NFS is faster than SMB and has native support on windows, so you could change from SMB to NFS and get a better performance

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34 minutes ago, Spotty said:

That's probably why it doesn't get much coverage (from LTT at least). Off the top of my head I only know FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Other than TrueNAS for things that LTT would possibly cover there's pfsense. Other than that everything is probably going to be extremely niche and specialised as you said. I wouldn't really consider BSD/its derivatives to be a desktop OS.

There's probably some other YouTube channels that have more of a focus on server side stuff that would probably be better suited for other BSD stuff and properly breaking down those more specialised applications of it. Does level1tech cover it?

I suspect some of the issues surrounding BSD is mainly that few people care enough about using it.
Though, I am surprised that cross platform APIs like SDL2 doesn't really support BSD either...

But a crazy person like me tends to poke a bit at everything. After all, it is interesting to see how different systems work.

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4 hours ago, Nystemy said:

One thing that has long intrigued me is why the only other option always is Linux.

Hardware support. And ironically, viral nature of GPL license helps this because you can't produce hardware that is running Linux without sharing sources of drivers and stuff.

If you use *BSD, you owe nothing to users of your hardware. Since there's no available drivers, there's no support for hardware. And if there's no hardware support it isn't popular.

 

For most x86_64 installations it isn't an issue but there might be situations where some network card has linux drivers but doesn't work under *BSD.

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2 hours ago, Si3Rra_7 said:

There's something so nice about that menu at 7:16.

 

It's like a cougar. Old, but sexy.

i um.....

time to go round and round again.....

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7 hours ago, jakkuh_t said:

 

 

 

not sure why the video makes it sound like adding the latest zfs version to a distro was so hard.

 

you just add the repo and install zfs 

Can Anybody Link A Virtual Machine while I go download some RAM?

 

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what kvm software was featured in the installing segment?

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IPMI, pretty much standard on server boards.

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4 hours ago, unijab said:

not sure why the video makes it sound like adding the latest zfs version to a distro was so hard.

 

you just add the repo and install zfs

zfs from the zfs repo doesn't have support from the distro. They're an actual business, they need actual enterprise software (which is to say actual support).

Just kidding they should've used arch LUL 

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I'd love to see your entire build detailed onthe TrueNAS build forum. Post the issues and work arounds.  

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We wanna build a similar setup at the office, is there any tech specs on yours Linus? Also that samba conf would be nice to have :D

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On 10/25/2021 at 5:05 AM, OrangeTurtle said:

what kvm software was featured in the installing segment?

A year later and still wondering! Looked pretty neat. Ideas?

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