Lets do this

[TurtleKwitty]

Budget (including currency): Yes but CAD$

Country: Canada (Quebec, if that might affect things)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I'm a programmer, I do freelance work and a gamer. Will need to handle a lot of virtualization to run all the servers needed for the systems I code, media stream server at the same time and handle all of gaming I can through at it.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Essentially this is my "f*ck it, lets do it all" build project following my current PC starting to die out over the load asked of it and that it was okay-ish tier five years ago. I love computers but I've always been more of a software gal but for a budget of yes I kinda want to build it myself haha. I'm here to kinda make sure I'm not forgetting something and ask if y'all have ideas on cases especially.

 

The build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($907.50 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($126.21 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard  ($899.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-2400 CL15 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($534.99 @ PC-Canada)
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($411.62 @ iSanek)
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($411.62 @ iSanek)
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card  ($3699.99 @ Amazon Canada) (Not beholden in any way to specific card, just 3090 with 2+ display port to run the monitors)
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($261.80 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($164.75 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: Samsung C49RG9 49.0" 5120x1440 120 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) (want to add a second eventually)
Total: $7417.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-23 17:39 EDT-0400

 

Questions:

Ram - I have this from a previous minor upgrade overclocked a bit but it was for the space that I needed it more than speed; would it be better to get outright better ram instead? if so what do you recommend?

Case - Yeah yeah stereotypical but any idea of a good pink case? Would love it to fit the rest of my quartz razer stuff if possible, but either way case recs please I seriously am lost with how many options there are and don know what to particularly look for haha.

Bluetooth - Just wanted to validate, I think i read that the motherboard has built in Bluetooth so will be able to switch to wireless just fine yeah?

Cooling - A consideration I'd like some help on as well is, while using it I'd like it to be quiet hence the cooler read that was good and quiet? BUT, when not at the computer will be letting it mine when idle so it would also need to be thermally good I guess to handle that? Whats the middle ground soundwise to fit my needs? I know water cooling is probably better but I'm a bit worried with my lack of experience it'll go bad, but am open if I can have precise details of what I'll need and the maintenance?

 

Thanks so much in advance for y'alls help :3

 

 

[brob]

DDR4-3600 CL16- will offer significantly better performance.

 

The Dark Rock Pro 4 is a good choice of cooler for the cpu. You will just need to watch memory module clearance.

 

If you want a good pink case get a good black case and pink vynl wrap or have it powder coated. Meshify 2 is a good case choice. If you want something with bling you might consider one of the lian-li pc-o11 models and switch to an AIO with A-RGB fans. Arctic has some very good models.

 

The motherboard has Bluetooth and WiFi.

 

I would spend less on the motherboard and add more NVMe storage.

 

I would wait to see the independent reviews of the new Intel cpu due out in a couple of weeks.

[Jonathan Lee]

I would also just go with 64 GB of ram. That's more of a f*ck it build. You can also consider going with the 6900XT instead. It performs relatively similarly and is typically much cheaper than the 3090. Also go all SSD, hard drives are dead  (jk, jk).

 

Here's a cleaned up f*ck it build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($929.00 @ Canada Computers) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($126.21 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($360.74 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($198.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($198.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($349.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($949.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($949.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($2228.97 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact White TG Clear Tint ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($283.57 @ Amazon Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Monitor: Samsung C49RG9 49.0" 5120x1440 120 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $6896.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-24 00:18 EDT-0400

6 hours ago, TurtleKwitty said:

Case - Yeah yeah stereotypical but any idea of a good pink case? Would love it to fit the rest of my quartz razer stuff if possible, but either way case recs please I seriously am lost with how many options there are and don know what to particularly look for haha.

Yea not many pink cases on the market. I would recommend buying a white case and spray painting it pink instead. Here are some case recommendations:

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX

Corsair 4000D Airflow

Lian Li Lancool II Mesh

Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh White w/ Controller

 

There are black versions of all the cases if you want to go with that instead.

[TurtleKwitty]

On 10/23/2021 at 9:45 PM, brob said:

DDR4-3600 CL16- will offer significantly better performance.

 

The Dark Rock Pro 4 is a good choice of cooler for the cpu. You will just need to watch memory module clearance.

 

If you want a good pink case get a good black case and pink vynl wrap or have it powder coated. Meshify 2 is a good case choice. If you want something with bling you might consider one of the lian-li pc-o11 models and switch to an AIO with A-RGB fans. Arctic has some very good models.

 

The motherboard has Bluetooth and WiFi.

 

I would spend less on the motherboard and add more NVMe storage.

 

I would wait to see the independent reviews of the new Intel cpu due out in a couple of weeks.

 

On 10/24/2021 at 12:22 AM, Jonathan Lee said:

I would also just go with 64 GB of ram. That's more of a f*ck it build. You can also consider going with the 6900XT instead. It performs relatively similarly and is typically much cheaper than the 3090. Also go all SSD, hard drives are dead  (jk, jk).

 

Here's a cleaned up f*ck it build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($929.00 @ Canada Computers) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($126.21 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($360.74 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($198.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($198.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S70 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($349.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($949.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($949.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB NITRO+ Video Card  ($2228.97 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact White TG Clear Tint ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($283.57 @ Amazon Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Monitor: Samsung C49RG9 49.0" 5120x1440 120 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $6896.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-24 00:18 EDT-0400

Yea not many pink cases on the market. I would recommend buying a white case and spray painting it pink instead. Here are some case recommendations:

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX

Corsair 4000D Airflow

Lian Li Lancool II Mesh

Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh White w/ Controller

 

There are black versions of all the cases if you want to go with that instead.

You're both right IDK why Iwas worrying about reusing ram haha, so read up on whats recommendeed and hell AMD themselves say 4000 ram so went all out this is supposed to be a f*ck it build after all haha
For the GPU had considered the 6900 but part of the reason its so much cheaper is exactly becasue its so much less efficient for mining, aka offsetting/repaying the system over time so decided to keep the 3090 after all.
Still a bit on the fence about the motherboard but do like the 10gig networking and it being way overkill so won't have to think too hard if I have extra needs overtime, should be good for a whillllleeee to come yeah? Don't wanna deal with too many new platform issues though so dont super wanna try to be first wave on the new intel so might as well just stick to ryzen is my thinking if that makes sense ?
Did change up storage, downgraded the m.2 a bit to 1tb for the windows install, gonna raid the two ssds for day t day storage and media server the entire harddrive, worst case the data corrupts dont super care so no raid on that one needed, does that make sense? Did want space for more expansion though so kinda been liking the giant case idea, if its not gonna be pretty itll at least be hella functional? did up the budget a fair bit, but this is my current thoughts, am I missing anything or if say I click buy tomorow I'll have it all right?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($749.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS XTREME EATX AM4 Motherboard  ($739.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory  ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory  ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($745.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($745.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($315.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card  ($2844.00 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 ATX Full Tower Case  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($204.99 @ Corsair)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($139.88 @ Other World Computing)
Case Fan: Cooler Master MasterFan MF Halo 55 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($24.99 @ Newegg) x7 (didnt wanna repeat it too many times here)
Total: $7848.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-25 01:01 EDT-0400

[Jonathan Lee]

1 hour ago, TurtleKwitty said:

For the GPU had considered the 6900 but part of the reason its so much cheaper is exactly becasue its so much less efficient for mining, aka offsetting/repaying the system over time so decided to keep the 3090 after all.

Fair point, also has 24GB vram for your modding needs . 

 

Your motherboard might need a bios update to support ryzen 5000, but it has bios flashback so it shouldn't be too difficult to update it. You can also consider going with the X570S Tomahawk or Aurous Master if you don't want to mess with bios. Their a refresh chipset that comes with an updated bios to support ryzen 5000 series.

 

Looks good to me though!

[KKLawrence]

So yeah, I'd go with a fancy white case and spray paint it or buy all the RGB possible to make it glow pink.

You don't need an Aorus Master, a good quality X570 will last you a long time!

I'd take a good AIO for cooling, something like the Arctic Liquid Freezer in the 360mm variant.

 

On 10/24/2021 at 6:22 AM, Jonathan Lee said:

Yea not many pink cases on the market. I would recommend buying a white case and spray painting it pink instead. Here are some case recommendations:

be quiet! Pure Base 500DX

Corsair 4000D Airflow

Lian Li Lancool II Mesh

Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh White w/ Controller

 

There are black versions of all the cases if you want to go with that instead.

 

I personally wouldn't take the 500DX and 4000D Airflow, as they both are rather compact. With this gear, a 5000D airflow is a little more comfortable to build in.

Also the Meshify 2, Lian Li O11 (with a lot of added fans), Phanteks P600 I believe and Dark Base 802 from Be quiet are all solid choices. I don't know about the last two, but the Meshify and Lian Li can both be had in white.

 

Here's also my list I would aim for, with your need and stuff.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pdkqDc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($907.50 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($191.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($204.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($204.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($429.00 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($411.62 @ iSanek) 
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($411.62 @ iSanek) 
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card  ($3699.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA G3 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($234.99 @ Memory Express) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($5.00) 
Monitor: Samsung C49RG9 49.0" 5120x1440 120 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $6951.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-25 02:23 EDT-0400

[TurtleKwitty]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Lee said:

Fair point, also has 24GB vram for your modding needs . 

 

Your motherboard might need a bios update to support ryzen 5000, but it has bios flashback so it shouldn't be too difficult to update it. You can also consider going with the X570S Tomahawk or Aurous Master if you don't want to mess with bios. Their a refresh chipset that comes with an updated bios to support ryzen 5000 series.

 

Looks good to me though!

Loads of space for ridiculous AI data sets too which cam come in handy on top of everything else :3 

 

Not dealing with bios would be ideal but seeing reviews that mention pesky noisy fan which is a big non starter thanks to autistic hypersensitivity if allistics are mentioning it (big part of why the 140mm and low start fans really). From what I've seen it looks easy enough to do and don't particularlyind putting a a bit of manual work if it means getting top end won't have to pay it any mind no matter how insane I end up upgrading the rest of stuff around it haha

For pure personal curiosity; any idea why they don't just put the update on new ones? 

 

[TurtleKwitty]

1 hour ago, KKLawrence said:

So yeah, I'd go with a fancy white case and spray paint it or buy all the RGB possible to make it glow pink.

You don't need an Aorus Master, a good quality X570 will last you a long time!

I'd take a good AIO for cooling, something like the Arctic Liquid Freezer in the 360mm variant.

 

 

I personally wouldn't take the 500DX and 4000D Airflow, as they both are rather compact. With this gear, a 5000D airflow is a little more comfortable to build in.

Also the Meshify 2, Lian Li O11 (with a lot of added fans), Phanteks P600 I believe and Dark Base 802 from Be quiet are all solid choices. I don't know about the last two, but the Meshify and Lian Li can both be had in white.

 

Here's also my list I would aim for, with your need and stuff.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pdkqDc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($907.50 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($191.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($204.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($204.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($429.00 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($411.62 @ iSanek) 
Storage: Seagate EXOS Enterprise 16 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($411.62 @ iSanek) 
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB VENTUS 3X OC Video Card  ($3699.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA G3 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($234.99 @ Memory Express) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($5.00) 
Monitor: Samsung C49RG9 49.0" 5120x1440 120 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $6951.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-25 02:23 EDT-0400

Was looking into AIOs and, past my initial worry it might be more maintenance, loads of people are mentioning pump whine that I just couldn't deal with, thanks for the prompt to look into it more again though it's good to run down the options :3

 

[KKLawrence]

1 hour ago, TurtleKwitty said:

Was looking into AIOs and, past my initial worry it might be more maintenance, loads of people are mentioning pump whine that I just couldn't deal with, thanks for the prompt to look into it more again though it's good to run down the options :3

I also was hesitant at first with AIO's, but you only hear of the bad cases of failures. Most AIO's are fine and hold up solid after 7 years. So no worries there.

 

If you want to keep it more quiet and if the case has the space for it, there are a few 420 (3x140mm) AIO's. They cool better then the 360mmm and are more quiet. Also 280mm could be enough, it is enough on my 5900X but I am not quite certain if its enough for the 5950X. The performance of an AIO is not only determined by the fan size and count, but also by the density and thickness of the Radiator. Thats why the thicc Arctic Liquid Freezer Line performs so well.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

On 10/24/2021 at 4:49 AM, TurtleKwitty said:

Budget: Yes

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zwC3Z

Well youve done a good job at confusing the absolute sht out of me ;-;

 

Basically just trimming down the stuff that will make very little diff in performance and also just some futureproofing upgrades

 

 

Yea a fk it build is really your own imagination so i cant really do much here cause my imagination of a fk it build would be top of the line cpu, gpu, and ram + subzero cooling for the cpu ram and gpu (like phase change cooling) cause im an ocing nut, and then having everything else balanced

[Jonathan Lee]

7 hours ago, TurtleKwitty said:

For pure personal curiosity; any idea why they don't just put the update on new ones?

For the any boards they have shipped out recently, it will most likely have the latest bios in it. Unfortunately, there are still boards floating out there that were shipped before ryzen 5000 launch. X570 has been around before ryzen 5000 so that's why it gets this weirdness. One of the main issues with the 5 year AM4 support promise (not to say it was a bad thing though).

[TurtleKwitty]

2 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9zwC3Z

Well youve done a good job at confusing the absolute sht out of me ;-;

 

Basically just trimming down the stuff that will make very little diff in performance and also just some futureproofing upgrades

 

 

Yea a fk it build is really your own imagination so i cant really do much here cause my imagination of a fk it build would be top of the line cpu, gpu, and ram + subzero cooling for the cpu ram and gpu (like phase change cooling) cause im an ocing nut, and then having everything else balanced

Oh good call on the psu

 

It's interesting that you mention ram as one of the things you'd go all in high end but pick 3600 over the AMD engineers recommended 4000 since that's what Ryzen 5950 was tuned for; right now have 2x G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory that's what testers seemed to recommend, any reason to go down to 3600?

[TurtleKwitty]

8 hours ago, KKLawrence said:

I also was hesitant at first with AIO's, but you only hear of the bad cases of failures. Most AIO's are fine and hold up solid after 7 years. So no worries there.

 

If you want to keep it more quiet and if the case has the space for it, there are a few 420 (3x140mm) AIO's. They cool better then the 360mmm and are more quiet. Also 280mm could be enough, it is enough on my 5900X but I am not quite certain if its enough for the 5950X. The performance of an AIO is not only determined by the fan size and count, but also by the density and thickness of the Radiator. Thats why the thicc Arctic Liquid Freezer Line performs so well.

Even the 420 ones have the pump with 30db sadly

[TurtleKwitty]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Lee said:

For the any boards they have shipped out recently, it will most likely have the latest bios in it. Unfortunately, there are still boards floating out there that were shipped before ryzen 5000 launch. X570 has been around before ryzen 5000 so that's why it gets this weirdness. One of the main issues with the 5 year AM4 support promise (not to say it was a bad thing though).

That's what I was thinking but figured after this year they'd have run out of the old stuff by now haha

[Somerandomtechyboi]

12 hours ago, TurtleKwitty said:

Oh good call on the psu

 

It's interesting that you mention ram as one of the things you'd go all in high end but pick 3600 over the AMD engineers recommended 4000 since that's what Ryzen 5950 was tuned for; right now have 2x G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory that's what testers seemed to recommend, any reason to go down to 3600?

3600 is just cheaper, plus tridentz neo ocs very well anyways

 

(Insert stupidity here) cause wrong f ing thread)

[KKLawrence]

12 hours ago, TurtleKwitty said:

Even the 420 ones have the pump with 30db sadly

I don't think the pump is the issue. With fans spinning, you wont really hear the pump. But 3 140mm fans are more quiet then 3 120mm ones.