Ryzen 5 5600X vs Ryzen 7 3700X (OBS-FB Live streaming + FL Studio)

[maoh]

Hey guys! Need your expertise on choosing the best CPU upgrade for my streaming + DAW setup. I'm torn between R5 5600x and R7 3700x since they are in my budget range and almost same pricing in my country, also, I'm using B450M Mortar Max that is why I'm choosing AMD chip. :)

[mr fobs]

Do you use your CPU for the encoding on OBS, or do you have an NVIDIA GPU?

[maoh]

2 minutes ago, mr fobs said:

Do you use your CPU for the encoding on OBS, or do you have an NVIDIA GPU?

Oh sorry I forgot to include the specs, I do have a dedicated gpu for encoding on OBS

[HanZie82]

I would go for the more cores.
I have a 3700X And if you want i can screenshot Taskmanager while streaming (OBS) if interested.

But i can asure you using OBS with that 3700X on software encoding can get to very high settings, NVidia's NVENC has nothing on it. (as in thats waaay uglier).

Please for the love of god don't use NVENC.

[maoh]

1 minute ago, HanZie82 said:

I would go for the more cores.
I have a 3700X And if you want i can screenshot Taskmanager while streaming (OBS) if interested.

Byut i can asure you using OBS this 3700X it can get to very high settings, NVidia's NVENC has nothing on it. (as in thats waaay uglier).

That's cool. Sure, I'm curious how good 3700x in handling streaming. Do you also use a DAW while streaming? 

[mr fobs]

8 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

Please for the love of god don't use NVENC.

Wait I thought the NVENC or NVENC new was the way to go? Don't modern NVIDIA GPUs have cores for this so you don't (much) lose performance? Now I am going to learn something.

[jaslion]

14 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

I would go for the more cores.
I have a 3700X And if you want i can screenshot Taskmanager while streaming (OBS) if interested.

But i can asure you using OBS with that 3700X on software encoding can get to very high settings, NVidia's NVENC has nothing on it. (as in thats waaay uglier).

Please for the love of god don't use NVENC.

Yeah cpu encoding is better but nvenc is totally fine? I mean with twitch compression and everything it's barely noticeable what you are using any way.

[HanZie82]

5 minutes ago, mr fobs said:

Wait I thought the NVENC or NVENC new was the way to go? Don't modern NVIDIA GPUs have cores for this so you don't (much) lose performance? Now I am going to learn something.

 

Just now, jaslion said:

Yeah cpu encoding is better but nvenc is totally fine? I mean with twitch compression and everything it's barely noticeable what you are using any way.

Yeah i might have to come back to my statement.
Did some checking and while you can make great quality with software encoding.
the NEW NVENC comes really damn close. Almost indistinguishable.

My apologies for working on old info. 20xx series cards had a well advertised NVENC thing but thats was meh. The 30xx cards NVENC does look pretty good.

 

14 minutes ago, maoh said:

That's cool. Sure, I'm curious how good 3700x in handling streaming. Do you also use a DAW while streaming? 

I do not use a DAW when streaming.

But afaik DAW's dont take up to much processing power?

(Setting OBS to 6000kbps and lowest encoding preset does work but almost 90%+ utilization)

[mr fobs]

2 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

My apologies for working on old info. 20xx series cards had a well advertised NVENC thing but thats was meh. The 30xx cards NVENC does look pretty good.

I remember 7 years ago, software was the only real option for streaming.. I have been streaming using NVENC new and its nice to be able to stream 1080p 60fps at 6500 bit rate with no performance hit.

[OneOfYas]

I have streamed with my 5600x using OBS and at max I lose like 2-3 FPS at most.

[Satanic_Jesus]

On 10/21/2021 at 1:20 AM, HanZie82 said:

I do not use a DAW when streaming.

But afaik DAW's dont take up to much processing power?

 

On 10/21/2021 at 1:03 AM, maoh said:

That's cool. Sure, I'm curious how good 3700x in handling streaming. Do you also use a DAW while streaming? 

 

I'm gonna hit both these in one go. Audio processing doesn't use much in the way of CPU usage until it does. It all comes down to sampling rate and buffer size. Higher sampling rates and lower buffers will give you less latency (Which is pretty much only going to be relevant if you're recording guitars, vocals etc.). The problem is running into a scenario where you're CPU can't process the buffer quick enough, and you'll get audio dropouts in the DAW. 

 

 At 48Khz sampling rate with a 512 buffer size you shouldn't have too many issues with a modern CPU unless you're trying to play back a tonne of instrument tracks with a tonne of effects on each, at that point you probably need to look into working more efficiently, printing stems and what not.

 

I work at 96Khz and haven't noticed too many issues since I've adjusted my workflow to Cubase (Definitely taking advantage of offline processing with my own 4770k), but I've definitely been able to chew through an i7-9700k quicker than you might think in Ableton 11