Should I trust this Newegg listing?

[Albeturkey]

So I was in the market for a new computer. I really wanted to build one myself but with the whole GPU storage, that's not really in my budget.

I found this listing for something called the Zotac MEK Hero G1 A5636, and it seems pretty good. It has pretty good specs for what I need it for and probably the best deal I've found in months, but is it too good to be true? I thought it was safe because after looking into it, it's from a good source in Zotac, and it's sold and shipped by Newegg BUT I wanted to ask here to make sure. Any help would be appreciated, thanks greatly!

 

Link to the system

[Middcore]

I don't see how it's good enough to fall into the "too good to be true" category. Just another overpriced prebuilt like we've come to expect during this era of shortages. At the regular price of $1900 it would be absurd. At this price it's just barely acceptable I suppose, under the current circumstances. 

 

Case is a debranded Lian Li 205M which is a perfectly fine mATX case Thermaltake S100 which is not as nice as the case I first thought it was but isn't bad. The swinging door side panel is kind of convenient. 

 

Motherboard is an MSI B550M Pro-VDH which is exactly the type of bargain-basement board I'd expect to be used in a system like this (it could actually be the B450 version but that had wifi and this doesn't list wifi as a feature). I wouldn't put more than the included 6-core CPU in it. 

 

Zotac is kind of a meme but the GPU should perform basically like any other 3060, that is to say disappointingly for what you're paying but these are the times we live in. 

 

RAM is Crucial Ballistix 3200mhz which is just fine, would be nice if it was 3600mhz but you can't expect too much.

 

PSU appears to be a Tier C on the list maintained by forum members if I'm reading it right. Not what I would want to trust a $1500 system to but again I expect corners to be cut with prebuilts.

 

Would be nice to know what model the NVMe drive is so we can find out of it has DRAM cache. 

 

^This is all assuming what you get is actually identical to the computer in the photos and not a PC with the same specs but completely different parts. 

 

[Albeturkey]

11 minutes ago, Middcore said:

I don't see how it's good enough to fall into the "too good to be true" category. Just another overpriced prebuilt like we've come to expect during this era of shortages. At the regular price of $1900 it would be absurd. At this price it's just barely acceptable I suppose, under the current circumstances. 

 

Case is a debranded Lian Li 205M which is a perfectly fine mATX case Thermaltake S100 which is not as nice as the case I first thought it was but isn't bad. The swinging door side panel is kind of convenient. 

 

Motherboard is an MSI B550M Pro-VDH which is exactly the type of bargain-basement board I'd expect to be used in a system like this (it could actually be the B450 version but that had wifi and this doesn't list wifi as a feature). I wouldn't put more than the included 6-core CPU in it. 

 

Zotac is kind of a meme but the GPU should perform basically like any other 3060, that is to say disappointingly for what you're paying but these are the times we live in. 

 

RAM is Crucial Ballistix 3200mhz which is just fine, would be nice if it was 3600mhz but you can't expect too much.

 

PSU appears to be a Tier C on the list maintained by forum members if I'm reading it right. Not what I would want to trust a $1500 system to but again I expect corners to be cut with prebuilts.

 

Would be nice to know what model the NVMe drive is so we can find out of it has DRAM cache. 

 

^This is all assuming what you get is actually identical to the computer in the photos and not a PC with the same specs but completely different parts. 

 

Well I looked into this myself, and thepcenthusiast posted that it was a Seagate M.2 NVMe SSD (500GB) with a 1TB HDD (both Seagate), and they also said it was a 600W 80+ Gold Certified PSU, and from the looks of the pictures, it's a Thermaltake Toughpower GX1 which is perfectly fine. I trust Thermaltake pretty well.

 

Even though I'd love to build a PC myself, GPU shortage is deadly. I made a PCPartPicker list with the same parts (including the GPU which I thought was was a Zotac RTX 3060 12GB GAMING Twin Edge and it goes to ~$1580, which is over $100 saved. Not too bad counting the situations.

[Middcore]

8 minutes ago, Albeturkey said:

Well I looked into this myself, and thepcenthusiast posted that it was a Seagate M.2 NVMe SSD (500GB) with a 1TB HDD (both Seagate)

 

There are multiple Seagate NVMe drives, but they should all have DRAM cache, so that's fine.

 

1TB HDD's are whatever, doesn't matter which model it is.

 

 

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 and they also said it was a 600W 80+ Gold Certified PSU, and from the looks of the pictures, it's a Thermaltake Toughpower GX1 which is perfectly fine. I trust Thermaltake pretty well.

 

Yes, I can see it's a Toughpower GX1 in the photos. That unit is considered "Tier C" by the people who maintain the tier list on these forums, that is to say suitable only for cheap builds. Which, of course, from the seller's perspective, this is... they are trying to offer the most attractive top-line spec at the cheapest cost to them they can. Of course the tier list isn't the Gospel but it's safe to say this is not a great unit, and certainly not what I would choose for a $1500+ system. It's passable. It won't blow up (probably). In general though you do not want to pick PSU's by brand name as all major brands have good units, bad units, and in between. And if I were going to just choose one brand name to blindly trust all of their products, Thermaltake would be well, well down the list. 

[Albeturkey]

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You can see that it's a Toughpower GX1 in the photos. That unit is considered "Tier C" by the people who maintain the tier list on these forums, that is to say suitable only for cheap builds. Which, of course, from the seller's perspective, this is... they are trying to offer the most attractive top-line spec at the cheapest cost to them they can. Of course the tier list isn't the Gospel but it's not a great unit, and certainly not what I would choose for a $1500+ system. It's passable. It won't blow up (probably). In general though you do not want to pick PSU's by brand name as all major brands have good units, bad units, and in between. 

Oh, I see gotcha. Well it makes sense, I understand that companies have to make money somehow, and this honestly won't be the be all, end all of me working on computers. This system will definitely be tinkered with in the future after the warranties run out, and I just wanna be able to know that what I'm buying will be dependable and fill my needs for school and playing games. I'm not SUPER worried about it being overpriced, I just want a system with good enough spec-wise and I can get and start up as soon as I get it, and honestly just be dependable along with trusting Newegg in me actually getting it. That's literally it lol.

[Dr0idGh0sT]

If you are okey to build PC by yourself you can easily build system with this specs, Changing to better cooler, Including faster RAMs and better coolers as well as probably better motherboard. 5600X system with normal components runs you about 700-800 USD.

Only hard to get part is GPU, While 3060 is not easily available and it's expensive, 6600XT is much easier to find for around 700 USD, if you visit ebay, U can find it below 700USD new, And this card is faster than 3060, So why the hell by prebuilt? 

[Albeturkey]

1 minute ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

If you are okey to build PC by yourself you can easily build system with this specs, Changing to better cooler, Including faster RAMs and better coolers as well as probably better motherboard. 5600X system with normal components runs you about 700-800 USD.

Only hard to get part is GPU, While 3060 is not easily available and it's expensive, 6600XT is much easier to find for around 700 USD, if you visit ebay, U can find it below 700USD new, And this card is faster than 3060, So why the hell by prebuilt? 

Because it's simple, I need a computer fairly quickly and that I know works. And plus, can't be bothered to build a computer right now.

[Dr0idGh0sT]

5 minutes ago, Albeturkey said:

Because it's simple, I need a computer fairly quickly and that I know works. And plus, can't be bothered to build a computer right now.

Are you sure? Because you can get better PC for same price.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3yqQXb

Without even trying to save money on any part.

Here is a listing for GPU

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CFWSJLB/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_Z8GJTYFW8Q6J5ND24SQW

 

You can get this as well

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B4929ZV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_1201D0V1SE9RZGY6R0DA

 

And if you have lottle more money, 6700xt isn't too high priced.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y934HZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_27SQA7RW0KR9CB7PR3S8

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091ZKN2RV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_E1MY6SM244HZVYM0PX2Y

 

Have a look at it, It'll be much better PC if you could build it.

[Dr0idGh0sT]

P.S. ebay have listings for 6600XT below 700USD as I said before

Also if you wanted, You can make my PCPartPicker list 1500 USD very easy.

[Albeturkey]

3 minutes ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

Are you sure? Because you can get better PC for same price.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3yqQXb

Without even trying to save money on any part.

Here is a listing for GPU

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CFWSJLB/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_Z8GJTYFW8Q6J5ND24SQW

 

You can get this as well

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B4929ZV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_1201D0V1SE9RZGY6R0DA

 

And if you have lottle more money, 6700xt isn't too high priced.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y934HZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_27SQA7RW0KR9CB7PR3S8

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091ZKN2RV/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_E1MY6SM244HZVYM0PX2Y

 

Have a look at it, It'll be much better PC if you could build it.

 

1 minute ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

P.S. ebay have listings for 6600XT below 700USD as I said before

Also if you wanted, You can make my PCPartPicker list 1500 USD very easy.

I'm pretty positive but I appreciate it. In the future, sure, building could be more accessible to my schedule, but for right now, what I wanted was a prebuilt. All I wanted to know was that I could trust the listing, and that the system was reliable.

[Dr0idGh0sT]

What about this

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali525/p/N82E16883360130

Or this

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190

Or this one 

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala265/p/N82E16883360179

Because as far as my knowledge goes, ABS systems are reliable enough to trust.

[Albeturkey]

12 minutes ago, Dr0idGh0sT said:

What about this

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali525/p/N82E16883360130

Or this

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190

Or this one 

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala265/p/N82E16883360179

Because as far as my knowledge goes, ABS systems are reliable enough to trust.

Okay yeah, actually these are good candidates, I'll write these down. Thank you!