Report suggests many Gen Z students do not know how to use a basic file directory

[RejZoR]

4 hours ago, Elijah Kamski said:

If they ever learnt about the file structures, it would be to hide their porn stash XD

It seems current generations don't even do this anymore just like they don't stash MP3's anymore. They just "listen to music on Youtube" is what I hear the most. I'm guessing they don't stash porn in hidden folders either, they just go to certain webpage with crossed hamsters and stuff like that...

[CerealExperimentsLain]

12 hours ago, RejZoR said:

It seems current generations don't even do this anymore just like they don't stash MP3's anymore. They just "listen to music on Youtube" is what I hear the most. I'm guessing they don't stash porn in hidden folders either, they just go to certain webpage with crossed hamsters and stuff like that...

The vast majority of 'The Kids'* these days are entirely dependent on the internet.  Everything is streamed or read through a browser.  Even piracy, it's pirate streaming sites, pirate comic/manga sites, etc.  It's all done through an active internet connection.  If you sever the internet connection, they are basically sent back to the stone age.

 

Meanwhile, I have enough locally stored media that I can blow up my pfSense box and MOST of my network will remain operational, just by virtue of static IPs and the networks switches still going.

 

*Teens and Young Adults, in some cases even older.

[RejZoR]

4 minutes ago, CerealExperimentsLain said:

The vast majority of 'The Kids'* these days are entirely dependent on the internet.  Everything is streamed or read through a browser.  Even piracy, it's pirate streaming sites, pirate comic/manga sites, etc.  It's all done through an active internet connection.  If you sever the internet connection, they are basically sent back to the stone age.

 

Meanwhile, I have enough locally stored media that I can blow up my pfSense box and MOST of my network will remain operational, just by virtue of static IPs and the networks switches still going.

 

*Teens and Young Adults, in some cases even older.

Yeah, Linus Tech Tip, always keep a big enough local copy of your "favorite private activity" library to last you through entire internet outage. You can't ever be too prepared, right?

[LOST TALE]

more and more will fall into the business of giving noobs the illusion of being intelligent, making progress, and learning.

Soon there will be PHDs of fitting forms into their pegs.

 

And soon I will run out of analogies because it will seem like a legit field of study. so I will run out of sufficiently far out examples to illustrate to noobs what "noob" is.

 

https://www.amazon.com/At-Our-Wits-End-Intelligent/dp/184540985X

 

[AudiTTFan]

I don't get why my generation finds anything on Reddit funny. I don't get why my generation finds anything on TikTok funny. I don't get how my generation doesn't even think of just googling things like how to click the search bar in the top right and find a folder.

 

I think I'm honestly glad that I'm the "weird" Gen Z who doesn't laugh at people dubbing another person's voice over theirs, or share fantasies about cheaply made body pillow with an anime character on it instead of getting a life. And most of all, I'm glad that when the internet goes out, I don't think of it as the same thing as the power going out.

[RejZoR]

27 minutes ago, AudiTTFan said:

I don't get why my generation finds anything on Reddit funny. I don't get why my generation finds anything on TikTok funny. I don't get how my generation doesn't even think of just googling things like how to click the search bar in the top right and find a folder.

 

I think I'm honestly glad that I'm the "weird" Gen Z who doesn't laugh at people dubbing another person's voice over theirs, or share fantasies about cheaply made body pillow with an anime character on it instead of getting a life. And most of all, I'm glad that when the internet goes out, I don't think of it as the same thing as the power going out.

I'm millennial and I find some TikTok stuff funny. Or Reddit stuff funny. But not enough that I'd invest my time into hanging on stupid TikTok all day long or god forbid record on it or post dank memes on Reddit 24/7. I'm still the generation that actually types in webpage addresses into URL bar and get to webpages directly. There is nothing worse than observing young people type in full URL address of webpage like "facebook.com" into Google Search and then click on first hit it gives to get to facebook.com. I understand older people don't quite grasp the concept, but I can't understand young ones. I partially blame Google for it with their "if you don't browse through our search engine you're not really browsing", but still. I don't expect everyone to be experts, but god damn learn the basics.

[AudiTTFan]

3 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

 There is nothing worse than observing young people type in full URL address of webpage like "facebook.com" into Google

Yup! What is this, the early days of YouTube when those tutorials on how to download HyperCam 2 would enter the entire "www.hyperionics.com" URL into Windows Live Search rather than just going directly to the site?

[Colonel_Gerdauf]

I have so much to say, but to put it in a TLDR: this is big ado about nothing, designed to rile up smug idiots

First thing first: why the **** are we so stuck up with practically ancient and low-level information? That is what it is, and the world only moves in one direction and that is forwards; move on already!

Second: The information actually makes a lot of sense in the practical macro angle. Let's step out of our Windows power-user or linux box for a minute; the computers around us are simplified to the point where a user gains nothing from understanding the concept of directories. I myself am very knowledgeable about directories; in fact I know things that a lot of the smug power users are clueless on, such as symlinks and attributes. But looking through the lens of a regular person, and I can already see how needlessly irritating folders can feel. I am a person who is pretty deep into the topic of User Experience (UX), and I can recognize the basic fact that these "power users" love to deny for some reason: at the end of the day, simplicity wins in terms of design direction.

[Shiroudan]

I can sadly see how this would happen, many of my classmates have no idea how computers work at all, like no idea, most don't even know what a GPU or CPU is. Likely comes from the increasing automated way that programs work, less has to be done by the user these days, and speed is a given.

[Franck]

On 9/23/2021 at 1:44 AM, ZacoAttaco said:

Some programming languages have search functions, but they’re difficult to implement and not commonly used

On what source is this based on ? Person talking don't know what he's talking about unless he's talking of punchcard programming i agree but i thought those died in the 1970's

[Forbidden Wafer]

4 hours ago, Caroline said:

my generation can't even read a clock ffs

 

Hello... It's me.

I have a hard time reading analog clocks. Take about 10-15s to read it. My mother mocks me she can read it instantly. And I mock her, she can't read it without her glasses. She laughs and says it's my problem because I'll be the one taking care of her when she gets older anyways.

[Forbidden Wafer]

33 minutes ago, Caroline said:

I say it's 20 past 5 and others 17:20 like it shows up on a phone.

At least here, we just say the two parts: 17 e 20.

Only say the other way when its past 30 minutes, and usually when it's pretty close to the full hour. e.g. 10 para as 7 = 6:50. 

[Zodiark1593]

5 hours ago, Caroline said:

 

 

my generation can't even read a clock ffs

 

because they're dumb? no! because their parents failed to teach them something as simple as reading a clock and put a smartphone in their hands when they were 3 years old so that they wouldn't interrupt their parents' mindless scrolling on social media.

working on a dirtree and other basic computer literacy *should* be taught at school but it's either not happening or done in such a terrible way the students find it boring and useless, I learned how to type both in a typewriter and computer, use basic office software, files and folders, digital encyclopedias (and wikipedia) and handling removable media -mainly diskettes but hey, it counts as removable media- at school.

Analog time was taught in First Grade for me. School couldn’t have fallen that low in a quarter decade… could it?

[dilpickle]

I mean yeah this is just another click baity "Gen Z is dumb" story like not knowing cursive or how to drive manual cars.

 

How would they know about file systems from the mobile devices they grew up on? Even desktop OSes try to obfuscate files as much as possible. This is in fact a stated goal of modern OSes.

 

It doesn't take more than a few minutes to teach this concept so I don't see what the big deal is.

[Ultraforce]

On 9/23/2021 at 1:50 AM, Slottr said:

Not gonna lie: I've seen WAY too many first years just absolutely cripple trying to figure out where their pycharm projects are

 

This checks out

I know I've run into issues with how the programs automatically want stuff to save in files not where I want them, with other students also having that trouble. I do think a big contributor was prior to university when we were to do school projects in middle or high school they recommended doing it in Google Drive and other than that there was just the warning that anything not in the M drive will only be on that particular computer.

 

I definitely have had a lot of trouble with projects and git repositories and think I still have a very limited understanding of it.

[Eaglerino]

egh nevermind