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Mind_001

I am building a new system. I got this last night.

 

https://store.minisforum.com/collections/all-product/products/hx90

 

GREAT product. Anyone that says it's trash, I have it, so there..

 

SO.. I need a M.2 NVME and 2x SATA SSDs. I thought of getting 1TB of each. NVME for system and SDDs in RAID 1 (or the linux software equivelant) for backup.

 

I have read your tier list, and yes, Samsung is best, BUT I'm getting jittery as the 850 and 870 brand is going to be bad for Linux..

 

I have seen several other YT members use other SSDs than the Samsung brand. Seagate, Team Group, Silicon Power, Kingston, etc. Are these actually on the same level or greater than Samsung?

 

Price doesn't matter, but I want ~$100-$120 for each SSD. NVME and 2x SATA SSDs.

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Raid is not backup. With how rarely ssds fail, id spend that money on a backup system instead o fraid here.

 

Linux works fine with basically any drive. Get the 870s, the 850s are pretty old drives not.

 

Really depends on your use, but for most uses, all the brands are basically the same and you won't notice a difference. The samsungs seems to be pretty much on top with reliability though, and seem to play less games than most other brands. They also do almost all the pars in house, with most others don't.

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9 minutes ago, Mind_001 said:

GREAT product. Anyone that says it's trash, I have it, so there..

complain was around claiming liquid metal with normal thermal paste on the CPU and liquid metal being all over the place.

otherwise its fine

 

Samsung, Toshiba/Koxia or intel make reliable drives with data center versions being options.
Samsung pulled some stuff with the 970evo plus so avoid that drive.

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22 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

complain was around claiming liquid metal with normal thermal paste on the CPU and liquid metal being all over the place.

otherwise its fine

 

Samsung, Toshiba/Koxia or intel make reliable drives with data center versions being options.
Samsung pulled some stuff with the 970evo plus so avoid that drive.

Board and case was clean when I got mine. I don't know why everyone is complaining about that. Samples are different than the end product.

 

I haven't open the h/s yet, but I don't have any liquid metal to reapply.

 

Well, I've seen Linus use a lot of those Intel SSDs in his servers.

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1 hour ago, Mind_001 said:

Board and case was clean when I got mine. I don't know why everyone is complaining about that. Samples are different than the end product.

I haven't open the h/s yet, but I don't have any liquid metal to reapply.

 

Well, I've seen Linus use a lot of those Intel SSDs in his servers.

because you don't sample a product wrong then when asked they send you another unit with the same issue. thats what GN had happen

 

those are NVME 2.5in

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7 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

because you don't sample a product wrong then when asked they send you another unit with the same issue. thats what GN had happen

 

those are NVME 2.5in

Well, when you sell a sample back to get a sample, you still get a sample.

 

Forgot about that. He said that for Whannock server, too. Silly me.

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16 hours ago, Mind_001 said:

I have seen several other YT members use other SSDs than the Samsung brand. Seagate, Team Group, Silicon Power, Kingston, etc. Are these actually on the same level or greater than Samsung?

 

Depends on the model. Every band made a top SSD and a bad SSD. For example the top of Seagate is the FireCuda 530, while a bad is the Q5. Silicon Power with the A55/S55/P34A60 as bad and P34A80, US70 as top. Kingston A400 as almost bad and KC2500 as top, etc.

As NVMe on $100 you can buy the Silicon Power P34A80, which is a high-end model for PCIe 3.0. As SATA, I hope you mean $100-120 for each one, and you can buy the Crucial MX500.

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2 hours ago, Wooden Law - Black said:

Depends on the model. Every band made a top SSD and a bad SSD. For example the top of Seagate is the FireCuda 530, while a bad is the Q5. Silicon Power with the A55/S55/P34A60 as bad and P34A80, US70 as top. Kingston A400 as almost bad and KC2500 as top, etc.

As NVMe on $100 you can buy the Silicon Power P34A80, which is a high-end model for PCIe 3.0. As SATA, I hope you mean $100-120 for each one, and you can buy the Crucial MX500.

 

How is the WD brand? I loved their HDDs, but how are they on SSDs?

 

Yeah, yeah. ~$300 for all of them.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mind_001 said:

How is the WD brand? I loved their HDDs, but how are they on SSDs?

 

Again, the answer always depends on the model of the drive. WD Blue SN550? Decent drive, it changes its hardware silently and performance has decreased. WD Black SN750? Great drive, high-end for PCIe 3.0. WD Blue 3D (SATA)? Good mid-tier SSD even if it is quite old. WD Green? Garbage. etc.

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