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CPU, AMD 5600X or 5800X

Budget (including currency): $ 500 

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Forza Horizon 5 and various different games. 

Other details I am upgrading from a Asus Maximus VIII Z157, i7 7700K, and MSI 1060 6GB. Luck finally arrived today with winning the Newegg Shuffle, Asus Tuf 3070 TI Gaming GPU and Asus Rog Strix B550F Gaming ATX. I am keeping most of the build and replacing gradually.

 

Asus Maximus VIII Hero

Intel i7 7700k

32 GB Corsair Vengeance 16X2 (32 GB)
SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 500GB

Corsair H100i AOI

4 Air Series AF140 LED Red Quiet High Airflow

Corsair Carbide 600c

 

With all that said, 5600X or 5800X for decent gaming, Adobe (Illustrator, Photoshop, and InDesign). I am new to AMD. I am not quite sure of the difference in X vs G models. For my need, not spending far too much, what would be the better choice?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

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the x is better but doensnt have any integrated gpu. is 500 just for the cpu or for the cpu and motherboard? also what speed is your ram at?

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For that workload, you don't really need the 5800X. A 5600X will do just fine. Might as well save your money.

 

The "G" means it has integrated graphics, and the "X" means it's "Overclocking designed" (even though their entire product stack has unlocked multipliers). It mostly comes out to be that it's binned slightly higher (i.e. R7 2700 vs 2700X)

 

 

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Know that for gaming, there will be near enough no difference between the two. (5600x/5800x)

 

5600x is likely perfectly fine for your application and will be a huge performance uplift from your 7700k.

 

If you find your professional applications benefit greatly from extra cores, go for the 5800x but keep in mind that will include extra budget for cooling it. (I own one)

5800x/3090

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I'd go with the 5800X because of the Adobe workloads. The extra threads will help there. For gaming alone a 5600X would be fine, but some games will do better with a 5800X. Personally, I wouldn't go less than 8 cores at this point unless it's purely a gaming rig, or the only productivity you do is like Word, email, etc., i.e. light tasks.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X · Cooler: Artic Liquid Freezer II 280 · Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify · RAM: G.skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 (2Rx8) · Graphics Card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming · Boot Drive: 500GB WD Black SN750 M.2 NVMe SSD · Game Drive: 2TB Crucial MX500 SATA SSD · PSU: Corsair White RM850x 850W 80+ Gold · Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow · Monitor: MSI Optix MAG342CQR 34” UWQHD 3440x1440 144Hz · Keyboard: Corsair K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (OPX Switch) · Mouse: Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless Gaming Mouse

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1 hour ago, RONOTHAN## said:

For that workload, you don't really need the 5800X. A 5600X will do just fine. Might as well save your money.

 

The "G" means it has integrated graphics, and the "X" means it's "Overclocking designed" (even though their entire product stack has unlocked multipliers). It mostly comes out to be that it's binned slightly higher (i.e. R7 2700 vs 2700X)

 

 

Thanks for the clarification. 😀

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1 hour ago, rickeo said:

Know that for gaming, there will be near enough no difference between the two. (5600x/5800x)

 

5600x is likely perfectly fine for your application and will be a huge performance uplift from your 7700k.

 

If you find your professional applications benefit greatly from extra cores, go for the 5800x but keep in mind that will include extra budget for cooling it. (I own one)

Would my Hydro Series H100i v2 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler be sufficient? 

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1 hour ago, adarw said:

the x is better but doensnt have any integrated gpu. is 500 just for the cpu or for the cpu and motherboard? also what speed is your ram at?

VENGEANCE LED 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15 Memory Kit
Memory Series VENGEANCE LED
Memory Type DDR4
Memory Size 32GB
Tested Latency 16-18-18-35
Tested Voltage 1.2V
Tested Speed 2666
 
SPD Latency 15-15-15-36
SPD Speed 2133MHz
SPD Voltage 1.2V
Speed Rating PC4-21300 (2666MHz)

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28 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

I'd go with the 5800X because of the Adobe workloads. The extra threads will help there. For gaming alone a 5600X would be fine, but some games will do better with a 5800X. Personally, I wouldn't go less than 8 cores at this point unless it's purely a gaming rig, or the only productivity you do is like Word, email, etc., i.e. light tasks.

It will depend on if I need to replace anything from my current build to my new build. I did forget to mention I do have a Corsair H850i in the current build.

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11 minutes ago, Th3Qui3tOn3 said:

I would not suggest that. 5600x, sure, 5800x, not so much. When you go Zen 3, the first thing you need to do is recalibrate your brain on temperatures. What's comfortable as far as operating temperatures goes is going to be higher with Ryzen 5000 and that's expected. However, an old 240 AIO, in my experience as a 5800x owner, isn't going to keep the CPU in a place where it'll happily boost. It'll run and stay out of thermal throttling but forget enabling PBO and seeing 4.7GHz all core for full load workloads. 


I use an EK 360 AIO and with PBO enabled top out at 82c, 4.7Ghz all core (Cinebench R23) and 147W Completely normal and Zen3 is happy to sit there are that temp. Its when you hit 95c or so that you begin to see thermal throttling. 8 cores in the same CCX whereas the 5600x only has 6 in the same amount of space. This is why you'll see 5900x's run even cooler than 5800x as its 12 cores are spread out over 2 CCX's. 

5800x/3090

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13 minutes ago, Th3Qui3tOn3 said:

It will depend on if I need to replace anything from my current build to my new build. I did forget to mention I do have a Corsair H850i in the current build.

Mobo minimum, of course, since it's an entirely different platform. However, the RAM probably needs to go as well. Both the 5600X and 5800X are single CCD designs, so they're not quite as memory sensitive as other Ryzen chips, but 2666MHz is still pretty damn slow for Ryzen. You'll want 3200MHz minimum, but that can technically wait a bit if you need to let your pocketbook chill for a while. Depending on what graphics card you upgrade to, and what PSU you have currently, you may need a new PSU as well. PSU should be fine, even if you go with a 3080.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X · Cooler: Artic Liquid Freezer II 280 · Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify · RAM: G.skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 (2Rx8) · Graphics Card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming · Boot Drive: 500GB WD Black SN750 M.2 NVMe SSD · Game Drive: 2TB Crucial MX500 SATA SSD · PSU: Corsair White RM850x 850W 80+ Gold · Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow · Monitor: MSI Optix MAG342CQR 34” UWQHD 3440x1440 144Hz · Keyboard: Corsair K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (OPX Switch) · Mouse: Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless Gaming Mouse

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