Wait for new Ryzen CPUs?

[Nem]

Im in the market for a new custom PC build as I managed to get my hands on a graphics card recently.

 

For the CPU, I was thinking of getting the 5900X, but heard that new V-cache versions of those processors will be coming out soonish

 

Is it worth waiting for those new CPUs at this point? Is the performance gain enough to warrant a 3-6month wait (or however long itll end up being)

[Mdaisley2]

All just depends on if you wanna wait? Personally i would, just to get the best.

[CommanderAlex]

6 minutes ago, Nem said:

For the CPU, I was thinking of getting the 5900X, but heard that new V-cache versions of those processors will be coming out soonish

 

Is it worth waiting for those new CPUs at this point? Is the performance gain enough to warrant a 3-6month wait (or however long itll end up being)

AMD premiered the 3D cache on the 5950X back in June to showcase the performance boost you get. They did not say that they will come to Zen 3 CPUs IIRC (correct me if I am wrong), although, is more likely in Zen 4, which will not be around until next year. 

1 minute ago, Mdaisley2 said:

All just depends on if you wanna wait? Personally i would, just to get the best.

You'll always be waiting for the best technology out there. 

[krakek]

AM-5/Zen-4 is going to bring new things like DDR-5 RAM, so you are not likely to have backwards compatibility, except for the PCI-E devices (such as your new GPU).

 

So the choice is more about either getting AM-4 now or waiting for the AM-5 later IMO. Getting a lower end AM-4 CPU right now and then upgrading with a Zen-3 refreshlater is possible, but possibly not very wise.

[Pixelfie]

I would wait for it, because apart from performance the upgradability should be a lot better (current gen from both AMD and Intel will be last with DDR4/AM4/1200). But to me Intel's 12th gen looks even more promising. I would check benchmarks between them once both are out

[krakek]

26 minutes ago, Pixelfie said:

I would wait for it, because apart from performance the upgradability should be a lot better (current gen from both AMD and Intel will be last with DDR4/AM4/1200). But to me Intel's 12th gen looks even more promising. I would check benchmarks between them once both are out

Depending on the upgrade cycle, yes, as it may take a little while (say 18 months?) for the new generation hardware to become mature.

[Nem]

9 hours ago, CommanderAlex said:

AMD premiered the 3D cache on the 5950X back in June to showcase the performance boost you get. They did not say that they will come to Zen 3 CPUs IIRC (correct me if I am wrong), although, is more likely in Zen 4, which will not be around until next year. 

Thats interesting. I was under the impression that the 3D cache would be as part of an updated 5900/5950X, rather than in some completely new unannounced cpu (ie they were just showcasing the 3D cache 5950X as a tech demo rather than an actual product)

 

Can anyone comfirm one way or the other?

[CommanderAlex]

5 hours ago, Nem said:

Thats interesting. I was under the impression that the 3D cache would be as part of an updated 5900/5950X, rather than in some completely new unannounced cpu (ie they were just showcasing the 3D cache 5950X as a tech demo rather than an actual product)

 

Can anyone comfirm one way or the other?

Found something in an article but does not specify what products they could include, 

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Su said that the company will be ready to start production with its "highest-end products" with 3D chiplets at the end of the year. This is just the first implementation of the stacking tech — AMD can use it for other functions in the future, too.

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-shows-new-3d-v-cache-ryzen-chiplets-up-to-192mb-of-l3-cache-per-chip-15-gaming-improvement

[alyen]

I tend to wait until the 5900x takes a big price drop or when the next big sale is up. Costs too much to keep up with next newest hardware unless its for a work computer.

[ADarkBard]

22 hours ago, Nem said:

Im in the market for a new custom PC build as I managed to get my hands on a graphics card recently.

 

For the CPU, I was thinking of getting the 5900X, but heard that new V-cache versions of those processors will be coming out soonish

 

Is it worth waiting for those new CPUs at this point? Is the performance gain enough to warrant a 3-6month wait (or however long itll end up being)

In PC land you can always be waiting for the next new part.