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How to Make a Big Project?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I have an idea that I think is a really good one but the amount of work would take a single person maybe 2 years to complete by themselves working 10 hours a week or more. So what's the best way to go about making it then? I was thinking best case is make a landing page, logo, assets, etc. and then make a video pitching it for crowd funding or a private investor. The next option would be to just outsource pieces that I think I can't do and the only downside is cost. Or thirdly is just contract someone or some company to do the whole thing. Thoughts?

 

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Kinda hard to suggest something without knowing what the idea is... and do consider that if you pitch it for crowdfunding there's nothing stopping someone with more resources from just doing it themselves if they want to. What exactly do you feel you can bring to the table that others couldn't? Ideas on their own aren't worth very much.

 

The easiest and safest way to go about it is to start an open source project on github and see if people are interested in helping.

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34 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Kinda hard to suggest something without knowing what the idea is... and do consider that if you pitch it for crowdfunding there's nothing stopping someone with more resources from just doing it themselves if they want to. What exactly do you feel you can bring to the table that others couldn't? Ideas on their own aren't worth very much.

 

The easiest and safest way to go about it is to start an open source project on github and see if people are interested in helping.

I guess I'm more of a solutions person. I know all of the pieces and their associated technologies and how they would interact I just lack the technical skills to do all of it. Is there anyway you can put an agreement on github so others can't steal your idea?

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25 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Is there anyway you can put an agreement on github so others can't steal your idea?

Depends on what the "idea" is... you can try to get a patent if it's not something too vague. Other than that you can choose a restrictive license for your code but that will obviously have an impact on people's willingness to participate - if they are willing and able to make it then why would they make it for you?

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4 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Depends on what the "idea" is... you can try to get a patent if it's not something too vague. Other than that you can choose a restrictive license for your code but that will obviously have an impact on people's willingness to participate - if they are willing and able to make it then why would they make it for you?

That makes sense and I was thinking a patent too. Can things be too specific to patent or would that just require multiple patents?

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

That makes sense and I was thinking a patent too. Can things be too specific to patent or would that just require multiple patents?

Depends on your local laws, usually being too specific isn't grounds for rejection but obviously if it's extremely specific then people could just change a small detail and ignore the patent.

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23 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

That makes sense and I was thinking a patent too. Can things be too specific to patent or would that just require multiple patents?

Not really to my knowledge. Being more specific might even make it easier to patent in some regards. Keep in mind that you can't patent an idea, however, only your implementation of it can be patented (and they cost money, also not unimportant). If something similar already exists they might also reject it, so make sure it's new and/or unique in a non-obvious way.

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1 hour ago, tikker said:

Not really to my knowledge. Being more specific might even make it easier to patent in some regards. Keep in mind that you can't patent an idea, however, only your implementation of it can be patented (and they cost money, also not unimportant). If something similar already exists they might also reject it, so make sure it's new and/or unique in a non-obvious way.

So you have to have the technology working for a patent?

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7 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

So you have to have the technology working for a patent?

You don't need a prototype to my knowledge. Maybe absurd things like a time travel device won't fly, as that's science fiction, but since your description sounds like a viable idea I don't  think you are in that regime.

 

It's more like you can't patent "my device that chops your food" as that's the idea of a blender/foodprocessor. You can come up with say some clever design that increases chopping efficiency or something and patent that implementation of a blender. A more techy example: you can't patent "the OLED display". Instead various companies have patented their designs of OLEDs or OLED displays.

 

That is about where my patent knowledge ends. That is of course also "hardware" and I think you are talking more about software? A patent office/lawyer should be able to be more clear about it, but I'm not sure if and how much they would charge for an inquiry. Some more in depth answers are in e.g. this FAQ: https://www.wipo.int/patents/en/faq_patents.html, also regarding software.

 

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20 minutes ago, tikker said:

You don't need a prototype to my knowledge. Maybe absurd things like a time travel device won't fly, as that's science fiction, but since your description sounds like a viable idea I don't  think you are in that regime.

 

It's more like you can't patent "my device that chops your food" as that's the idea of a blender/foodprocessor. You can come up with say some clever design that increases chopping efficiency or something and patent that implementation of a blender. A more techy example: you can't patent "the OLED display". Instead various companies have patented their designs of OLEDs or OLED displays.

 

That is about where my patent knowledge ends. That is of course also "hardware" and I think you are talking more about software? A patent office/lawyer should be able to be more clear about it, but I'm not sure if and how much they would charge for an inquiry. Some more in depth answers are in e.g. this FAQ: https://www.wipo.int/patents/en/faq_patents.html, also regarding software.

 

That makes sense and I agree I think I might have to reach out to an attorney at this point

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If your idea is not time critical and by that I mean it time critical if you don't get it out very soon it will be surpassed by other technologies. So if it's not time critical I would do it myself if I were you. That is just my opinion. Small project like this I tend to solo it. I usually don't split work unless there is big deadline or if the project gets medium size at 3k-4k manhour.

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21 hours ago, BuckGup said:

I have an idea that I think is a really good one but the amount of work would take a single person maybe 2 years to complete by themselves working 10 hours a week or more. So what's the best way to go about making it then? I was thinking best case is make a landing page, logo, assets, etc. and then make a video pitching it for crowd funding or a private investor. The next option would be to just outsource pieces that I think I can't do and the only downside is cost. Or thirdly is just contract someone or some company to do the whole thing. Thoughts?

 

Wouldn't it be possible for you to simply go with a MVP as fast as you can, and then go from there?

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44 minutes ago, igormp said:

Wouldn't it be possible for you to simply go with a MVP as fast as you can, and then go from there?

It's too technical to consider an MVP as you don't save a ton of time or money

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Don't wanna poop on anyone's party here, but I read an interesting blog a few months ago, by the founder of Stonemaier Games. If you don't know, it is a very successful board game company. (may I also state my opinion that board games don't tend to rely on previous successes to sell)

 

https://stonemaiergames.com/kickstarter-lesson-204-your-idea-is-brilliant-your-idea-is-worthless/

 

tldr; Ideas are worthless without the required commitment

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