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Hey,

I'm looking to build a pc and after selecting the main parts, came across two options.

I'm going to be using an i7 10700f + RTX 3070 in any one of these two case configurations

  • NZXT H510 + MSI MAG B460M BAZOOKA + Antec NeoEco 750 Gold PSU + NOCTUA NH-U12S CHROMAX BLACK

  • NZXT H210 + MSI MPG B560I Gaming + Included with NZXT H1 = NP-SP650M + Included with NZXT H1 = 140MM AIO

Should I get the mini ITX build or should I get the bigger one? I've seen Austin Evan's video where he uses a 5600x along with a 3060ti in the H210 build. I don't have much of a space constraint but I would 100% love to get the smaller one if the temps would not have that much of a difference. Which one would you recommend? And are the other parts compatible? Also should I be worried about upgradability since I think that case can only fit a two fan gpu and I might upgrade to a newer card in the next 3-5 years; would good gpus then still have a two fan model?

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4 minutes ago, basicallyimcrap said:

would good gpus then still have a two fan model?

We never know, but make sure your gpu DOES fit because you never know.

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2 minutes ago, Carbonado said:

We never know, but make sure your gpu DOES fit because you never know.

Yep, I've checked and the MSI 3070 does fit. Which of the two configs would you recommend?

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11 minutes ago, basicallyimcrap said:

if the temps would not have that much of a difference.

Both of those cases are hot boxes with little airflow. In both of them your components will get hot. So no, the temps would not have much difference. 🤣

11 minutes ago, basicallyimcrap said:

Which one would you recommend?

Neither. Get a case with actually good airflow.

BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

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Ditch the nzxt cases unless youd like dealing with burning and throttling components

 

Id suggest the phanteks p200a or nr200 since they have decent airflow and are not literal pc baking ovens

 

 

I think youll wanna go amd since intel runs really hot and in an itx environment thats the last thing you want, maybe a 5800x instead of the 10700f?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, basicallyimcrap said:

Hey,

I'm looking to build a pc and after selecting the main parts, came across two options.

I'm going to be using an i7 10700f + RTX 3070 in any one of these two case configurations

  • NZXT H510 + MSI MAG B460M BAZOOKA + Antec NeoEco 750 Gold PSU + NOCTUA NH-U12S CHROMAX BLACK

  • NZXT H210 + MSI MPG B560I Gaming + Included with NZXT H1 = NP-SP650M + Included with NZXT H1 = 140MM AIO

Should I get the mini ITX build or should I get the bigger one? I've seen Austin Evan's video where he uses a 5600x along with a 3060ti in the H210 build. I don't have much of a space constraint but I would 100% love to get the smaller one if the temps would not have that much of a difference. Which one would you recommend? And are the other parts compatible? Also should I be worried about upgradability since I think that case can only fit a two fan gpu and I might upgrade to a newer card in the next 3-5 years; would good gpus then still have a two fan model?

like @HairlessMonkeyBoysaid, both of the cases are bad, because they basically have no airflow, a case with more airflow is preferable

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2 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Ditch the nzxt cases unless youd like dealing with burning and throttling components

I've heard lots of reviews saying the same thing but many others still say that it runs fine, like JayzTwoCents and Austin Evans who both did builds in the same case with acceptable temps.

 

4 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

I think youll wanna go amd since intel runs really hot and in an itx environment thats the last thing you want, maybe a 5800x instead of the 10700f?

I actually do want to go 5800x but its really damn expensive and not that good of a deal for me. I thought of going either with a 5600x or a 10700f and for my use case, the 10700f took the win.

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1 minute ago, basicallyimcrap said:

I actually do want to go 5800x but its really damn expensive and not that good of a deal for me. I thought of going either with a 5600x or a 10700f and for my use case, the 10700f took the win.

Well the 10700f will do just fine unless you put it in a pc baking oven (looking at you nzxt cases)

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7 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Neither. Get a case with actually good airflow.

I have a few options for some other cases:

Deepcool MACUBE 110 BK Tempered

MSI MAG VAMPIRIC 010

MSI MPG SEKIRA 100R

 

Any suggestions?

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3 minutes ago, basicallyimcrap said:

I have a few options for some other cases:

Deepcool MACUBE 110 BK Tempered

MSI MAG VAMPIRIC 010

MSI MPG SEKIRA 100R

 

Any suggestions?

Any of these in this parametric filter. There are some others, too.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Case: *Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $69.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-20 08:44 EDT-0400

 

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BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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4 minutes ago, basicallyimcrap said:

I have a few options for some other cases:

Deepcool MACUBE 110 BK Tempered

MSI MAG VAMPIRIC 010

MSI MPG SEKIRA 100R

 

Any suggestions?

Montech x1, neo silent, forge 100r for the cheaper cases

 

P400a, 4000d, pure base 500dx for the somewhat more expensive options

 

Nothing i can reccomend above 150$ as that is a diminishing returns zone for quality and all you are paying for is the brand and/or rainbow puke lights

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The Meshify 2 compact is - also a good case with 3 included fans, 2x140mm and 1x120mm. Looks expensive at first but with quality fans included and good build quality.

Generally speaking, Small cheap hotboxes exist plenty, good airflow cases for sensible amount of money few and high airflow ITX cases tend to cost a premium.

My Meshify 2 compact is the same length as my previous Fractal Define nano s, which was an ITX case. So really think about your use case and if you really want to spend the premium on the case and motherboard, but not on the CPU while also be limited by your choice of GPU

 

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6 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Montech x1, neo silent, forge 100r for the cheaper cases

 

P400a, 4000d, pure base 500dx for the somewhat more expensive options

Cant use any of these cases since the guys from whom I'm buying from dont have them on hand. They only have Antec, Lian Li, MSI, NZXT, Ant Esport and Deepcool cases.

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1 minute ago, basicallyimcrap said:

Cant use any of these cases since the guys from whom I'm buying from dont have them on hand. They only have Antec, Lian Li, MSI, NZXT, Ant Esport and Deepcool cases.

I guess the only thing you can get is the forge 100r

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1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

I guess the only thing you can get is the forge 100r

Not possible as well, they only have two case models from MSI and they dont have the forge 100r. I can get either MSI MAG VAMPIRIC 010 or MSI MPG SEKIRA 100R.

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BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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1 minute ago, basicallyimcrap said:

Not possible as well, they only have two case models from MSI and they dont have the forge 100r. I can get either MSI MAG VAMPIRIC 010 or MSI MPG SEKIRA 100R.

Could you list all the case models you can get?

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1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Could you list all the case models you can get?

These are all the ones. I'm using online configurators from two different local vendors.

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9 minutes ago, basicallyimcrap said:

These are all the ones. I'm using online configurators from two different local vendors.

Looking at relative pricing, I'd probably go with either the Lancool 215 or NX800.

2 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

205 mesh.

Yeah or this one, didn't see it at the bottom.

BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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