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I am getting better picture quality when watching 1080p videos on my 720p (HD Ready) TV

james_bond

This is the video that I am using as an example >>> Click here but I am seeing increase in picture quality in all videos. I am using this TV as my desktop's monitor so sometimes I am sitting right in front of it so the I am able to tell the difference. This is my TV >>>> Click here.

 

Why is this happening & how is this even possible ? I mean if my TV's resolution is limited to 1366x768 why am I seeing an increase in picture clarity while playing 1080p videos ?

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its not really 1080p because youtube decompresses the video quality. so even if you put 4k it would look way better than 720p on a 720p monitor

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its most likely placebo

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2 minutes ago, adarw said:

its not really 1080p because youtube decompresses the video quality. so even if you put 4k it would look way better than 720p on a 720p monitor

So if someone wants to watch uncompressed true HD videos which video streaming service should he use ?

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5 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

my bet would be bitrate or placebo.

 

1 minute ago, Mr-G-Man said:

its most likely placebo

No don't think its placebo. I tested like 15-18 videos & got the same result.

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1 minute ago, james_bond said:

So if someone wants to watch uncompressed true HD videos which video streaming service should he use ?

its only uncompressedif its a blue ray. or if you downloaded it uncompressed

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5 minutes ago, james_bond said:

So if someone wants to watch uncompressed true HD videos which video streaming service should he use ?

A bluray disk pretty much as good as it gets (still compressed). It's FAR too much data to do uncompressed streaming.

 

A lot of youtubers upload their 1080p footage encoded as 4k because the bitrate is higher then and you get a noticeably better image whist the resolution actually doesn't change in the footage.

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3 minutes ago, james_bond said:

So if someone wants to watch uncompressed true HD videos which video streaming service should he use ?

None. There are no uncompressed video streaming services.

 

You are seeing better quality with higher resolution versions, because the higher resolution versions are higher quality, mostly due to increased bit rate.

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Just now, adarw said:

its only uncompressedif its a blue ray. or if you downloaded it uncompressed

Bluray is also compressed. It's encoded with H.264. It's less compressed, but still compressed.

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Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Bluray is also compressed. It's encoded with H.264. It's less compressed, but still compressed.

i mean everything at this point is compressed lol

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3 minutes ago, james_bond said:

So if someone wants to watch uncompressed true HD videos which video streaming service should he use ?

Renting Blue Ray.

 

I don't think there's currently a streaming service that isn't using some form of encoding and compression. 

 

From my use, (I use netflix, disneyand AppleTV), Disney+ seems to have the best picture quality, followed by Netflix, then Apple+ (really letting me down)

 

if you want the absolute best quality that has the minimum compression? Blue Ray disk is basically it.

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I am dissapointed to hear that. I was planning to take an Amazon Prime subscription hoping for high quality videos. Where I live there are no bluray renting services available.

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13 minutes ago, adarw said:

its not really 1080p because youtube decompresses the video quality. so even if you put 4k it would look way better than 720p on a 720p monitor

Yep, if possible I download/watch 1440p videos on my 1080 monitor because it looks better.

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Just now, Mel0nMan said:

Yep, if possible I download/watch 1440p videos on my 1080 monitor because it looks better.

wait is that your cat? 

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2 minutes ago, james_bond said:

I am dissapointed to hear that. I was planning to take an Amazon Prime subscription hoping for high quality videos. Where I live there are no bluray renting services available.

Oh, I forgot I had prime too. Don't watch much on it.

 

it's middle pack. I don't really notice the difference with Prime content between 1080p and 4k, which IMHO puts it about on par with AppleTV service,j but behind Netflix (which will depend on the title and how it was encoded), and way behind Disney+ where almost everything new is in really good HDR 4k. while compression is still there, I find it's the closest to "blueray" for the streaming services.

 

an alternative could be Plex. but there are ethical/legal questions around that you'd have to ask yourself (but still compresses / re-encodes if you're not direct playing)

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Yep, if possible I download/watch 1440p videos on my 1080 monitor because it looks better.

I guess I will have to do the same from now on.

 

Is there any hope the situation will improve ?

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2 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Don't have a cat. Just a random picture I found on Reddit last year

oh i wanted more cat pics.............. 😞

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Just now, james_bond said:

I guess I will have to do the same from now on.

 

Is there any hope the situation will improve ?

no lol

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So the conclusion is people are obsessed with only the resolution & they completely ignore the bitrate factor. People just buy devices like the Amazon Fire TV stick 4K & all they get is compressed sh**.

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1 minute ago, james_bond said:

So the conclusion is people are obsessed with only the resolution & they completely ignore the bitrate factor. People just buy devices like the Amazon Fire TV stick 4K & all they get is compressed sh**.

Yeah basically. Most people don't care and can't tell the difference anyway. If you are like me, you use streaming services when you have to, but everything I love I have on Bluray.

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