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GamersNexus exposes EXPLODING Gigabyte PSUs and Gigabyte Manipulating the Truth | Tries to Disparage GamersNexus

3 hours ago, leadeater said:

Acer back in the day was cancer for this, swear they were trying to see how many different chipsets and device vendors they could get in to a single model and then have different combinations within the same model but different spec/variant.

That's Dell's business model. That's because their whole business model is JIT (Just In Time) delivery. They're in constant communication with their various vendors to source parts and treat them all as a fungible commodity. Depending on price, you might get one four different SSDs of the same capacity and "speed rating" knows as Class. They purposefully abstract so as to not be beholden to specific hard component specifications. Maybe you might get an TLC drive, maybe it's QLC with cache... But as long as it meets Dell's Classification, you're not supposed to care as the consumer. Though to be fair, they do have a set of hard numbers which sets the bar for what classification is what. However, they do burry it in a whitepaper that your average consumer isn't going to be looking for.

Class 20

  • SATA mainstream SSDs
  • Significant performance increase over Class 10
  • Comprised primarily of TLCbased SSDs

Class 30

  • SATA performance SSDs
  • Performance increase over Class 20
  • Comprised primarily of MLCbased SSDs
  • Fewer and fewer models available in this class

Class 40

  • PCIe mainstream SSDs
  • Comprised primarily of TLCbased SSDs
  • Significant number of different SSD models available in this class
  • Performance variation across different models

Class 50

  • PCIe performance SSDs
  • Significant performance increase over Class 40
  • Comprised of MLC-based SSDs as well as newer flash-based technologies such as 3D Xpoint
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4 hours ago, Blademaster91 said:

I'm curious if Gigabyte used thermal pads that aren't enough to handle how hot GDDR6X is

I would say out of the four (3 models) of 3090 that I own, the gigabyte is by far the worst performing one

MSI gaming x trio stock: 108c (not throttling)

Galax HOF stock: 104c (not throttling)

Gigabyte stock: 110c (throttling to around 70% hash rate performance)

Gigabyte repadded: 98c

 

What's interesting is that I swapped the backplate pads first assuming it's that issue, but it still overheats, which means the front pads are also bad even though it has a huge heatsink to cool it

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2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

I would say out of the four (3 models) of 3090 that I own, the gigabyte is by far the worst performing one

MSI gaming x trio stock: 108c (not throttling)

Galax HOF stock: 104c (not throttling)

Gigabyte stock: 110c (throttling to around 70% hash rate performance)

Gigabyte repadded: 98c

 

What's interesting is that I swapped the backplate pads first assuming it's that issue, but it still overheats, which means the front pads are also bad even though it has a huge heatsink to cool it

Somehow they managed to make the Aorus Extreme, which is almost 4 slots wide but performs worse than even some 2.5 slot cards. Not only with VRAM, but also with the GPU core temp.

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I didn't like Gigabyte very much to begin with. This doesn't help, well it does actually.. it helped me make up my mind to not buy anything made by Gigabyte. 

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Honestly I'm not surprised, Gigabyte is not a great manufacturer in general

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3 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

That's fair. But also NZXT didn't try to discredit GN this hard. (afaik)

ye, they're like "buddies", some NZXT guys and GN…

 

Gigabyte is just scummy, and far away … 

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2 hours ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Honestly I'm not surprised, Gigabyte is not a great manufacturer in general

what surprises me is that its a CWT PSU, I thought they make good PSUs (also for Corsair afaik)

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36 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

what surprises me is that its a CWT PSU, I thought they make good PSUs (also for Corsair afaik)

theres some conflicting info on these models, some believe its MEIC
the level of component swapping makes me think its not a old OEM

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5 hours ago, mr moose said:

I bought a cheap arse HP for my sons school work,  naturally he fucked the screen in the first year. I managed to get a non gen screen of ebay and it fit fine.  Was one of those more obscure models too.

 

 

I couldn't with my brother's I needed the entire screen+bezel...and I could only get the screen off Ebay. I actually have it installed via blutack, however he ended up getting another laptop. HP wanted just over $432 for the screen vs the laptop's price of $480.

6 hours ago, leadeater said:

Pro tip. even for buying cheap laptops, only buy from business range. You lose the GAMER looks but gain none of the BS.

It was one of their quad core "pentium" (aka Atom dressed up), 4GB RAM models. I wasn't too shocked...but it is still complete bullshit. My brother's new laptop though is far superior on the parts side, as is my sister's current Ryzen 2 one - both are business grade laptops.

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15 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

what surprises me is that its a CWT PSU, I thought they make good PSUs (also for Corsair afaik)

Who told you it was CWT? It's MEIC. Also, even if it were CWT, it doesn't mean it can't be shit. Every OEM has its terrible units. 

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On 8/18/2021 at 4:34 AM, The89Lunder said:

Honestly, you can type "AnyBrandName catches fire" and some results will pop up for any and all companies. And if not catching fire, there will be some bad products among any companies lineup. Current or present.

 

As Steve mentions in the video "All companies makes bad products, making good products is hard, it's about how they respond to the bad products" (Might be a short version of the full sentence, but I think the message comes across 😂)

 

I have reached out to ASUS support before, their Motherboard support is terrible, no help at all. But a few weeks ago, I got one of those annoying little black flies in my 27" TUF monitor (6 months old). And a quick few photos, a little note and a week of waiting, and I had a brand new display at my door, at no cost. Not even my local stores offered that level of service. And Proshop ind Denmark, have some of the best customer service you can get. And believe my, I have tested them many times over the past 15 years.

 

Besides the hate train against gigabyte at the moment, are their motherboards and GPU's really that bad?

I have both at the moment (brand new I might add), and they have been nothing but perfect so far.

I am at my second Gigabyte GPU btw. both flawless.

(when ram's price is too high)

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20 hours ago, freeagent said:

I didn't like Gigabyte very much to begin with. This doesn't help, well it does actually.. it helped me make up my mind to not buy anything made by Gigabyte. 

They do has some good stuff. Their X570 motherboards from 2018 seems to be well made. Good VRM, good feature and reasonable price. I'm using X570 Aorus Pro Wi-Fi and it's not bad for the price compare to Asus or MSI offerings at that time.

 

Their GPU however still not that great...

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17 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

I couldn't with my brother's I needed the entire screen+bezel...and I could only get the screen off Ebay. I actually have it installed via blutack, however he ended up getting another laptop. HP wanted just over $432 for the screen vs the laptop's price of $480.

 

That sucks,  You don't want to see what this laptop looks like now after another 2 years of abuse, at least the cheap ebay screen still works.

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Weirdly Gigabyte has the best mobo VRM delivery of anyone for the last few years.  The B team must be assigned to power supplies.

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7 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Weirdly Gigabyte has the best mobo VRM delivery of anyone for the last few years.  The B team must be assigned to power supplies.

i mean generally, these companies dont make PSUs, they use OEMs… what companies like msi, gigabyte "manufacturer" are usually GPUs and mobos… the rest is more or less random OEMs (whatever is cheap basically) 

And no, thats not the whole picture, just the gist of it.

 

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