SteamPal is a fact. Valve announced their first handheld console named Steam Deck

[MultiGamerClub]

Not avaible to reserve in norway.. Aww man.

[CerealExperimentsLain]

See, you guys are just silly.  Wanting to use a 15w battery powered computer to run AAA games.  Lemme tell you, there's an OpenGL build of 1999's Re-Volt, it'll run at 4K on pocket calculator, and it'll kick ass on this thing and the battery will likely past 10hrs.

 

[xAcid9]

Valve updated the Steam Deck spec. Can anyone calculate the theoretical bandwidth? 

[Forbidden Wafer]

14 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

Valve updated the Steam Deck spec. Can anyone calculate the theoretical bandwidth? 

88 GB/s

 

 

[xAcid9]

35 minutes ago, Forbidden Wafer said:

88 GB/s

That's probably more than enough for both CPU and GPU.

[Forbidden Wafer]

10 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

That's probably more than enough for both CPU and GPU.

Half of PS4. About a fourth of PS5. For 720p, yes.

[Quackers101]

a bit old now, but gaben on the IGN interview talking about their views about this project.

One thing that struck me a little is "how people are going to see this in a year from now on", so maybe trash it by a year if they feel like it?

Else it's a bit cool to hear that they kind of care in the company behind steam and from game development and software into their products.

Either it being modding, controls, and compatibility to some degree.

 

Also I guess another point, gaben might also want to make a statement.

As in, consoles are PC's and doesn't need to be limited?

When their "handheld" can be close to an PC, then why can't consoles?

 

Edited July 30, 2021 by Quackers101

[PocketNerd]

2 hours ago, Quackers101 said:

 

When their "handheld" can be close to an PC, then why can't consoles?

 

Because, until recently, consoles didn't use anything close to PC hardware. At least as far as I am aware.

[Quackers101]

1 hour ago, PocketNerd said:

Because, until recently, consoles didn't use anything close to PC hardware. At least as far as I am aware.

sony vs microsoft, if I'm not mistaken the few previous gen from microsoft had pushed for the xbox + wndows 10 combination?

although not sure what stages it has gone through or how its now.

[PocketNerd]

41 minutes ago, Quackers101 said:

sony vs microsoft, if I'm not mistaken the few previous gen from microsoft had pushed for the xbox + wndows 10 combination?

although not sure what stages it has gone through or how its now.

Not sure for XB360 but definitely for XBone. But now matched with actual (but still kinda custom) PC hardware as well.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Series X gets the Windows 11 treatment.

[KaitouX]

2 hours ago, PocketNerd said:

Because, until recently, consoles didn't use anything close to PC hardware. At least as far as I am aware.

Xbox One and PS4 were basically cheap PCs hardware wise. APUs with Jaguar cores(was used in some desktop/laptop APUs) and GCN2(was used from the HD7790 until the R9 390X), and both consoles were released in November 2013 so I wouldn't consider them recent.

[Donut417]

1 hour ago, Quackers101 said:

wndows 10 combination?

The Xbox OS shares the same kernel as Windows 10. 

[Moonzy]

On 7/17/2021 at 2:16 PM, xAcid9 said:

Now that I looked at the spec again, I wonder how strong is the CPU. Is it gonna perform similar to my i7-3770?

Hmm, while it has zen 2(?) which is the faster architecture by quite a lot, it's also limited to 15W

 

I guess fastest way to find out is to just look at AMD current laptop offerings that have chips at 15W as well

 

If I had to guess, yea it's faster

[Helpful Tech Witch]

10 hours ago, Moonzy said:

Hmm, while it has zen 2(?) which is the faster architecture by quite a lot, it's also limited to 15W

 

I guess fastest way to find out is to just look at AMD current laptop offerings that have chips at 15W as well

 

If I had to guess, yea it's faster

Yea, zen 2 4/8 3.5ghz max, look at similar laptop cpus or at a r3 3100 at low power

[xAcid9]

15 hours ago, Moonzy said:

Hmm, while it has zen 2(?) which is the faster architecture by quite a lot, it's also limited to 15W

 

I guess fastest way to find out is to just look at AMD current laptop offerings that have chips at 15W as well

 

If I had to guess, yea it's faster

Yeah. Closest I could find is r3-5300u which is very similar spec to Steamdeck CPU but with higher clock. 
2.6-3.8Ghz compare to 2.4-3.5Ghz in Steamdeck. 

 

Found a video of it with Cinebench R15 multicore score of 902cb while my overclocked i7-3770 only managed 730cb. 650cb at default clock. 

[Quackers101]

47 minutes ago, Caroline said:

Unpopular opinion: consoles are fine if all you do is play some games every once in a while, you don't really need a $5000 PC in order to have some fun with friends on a pizza night.

unpopular? isn't this one of the reasons behind consoles (or at least some of the earlier ones).

Now there is just less coop, splitscreen games (some indie titles are still keeping it up?)

But then I look over at nintendo, oh man they have a lot of games based around being with a group, on a handheld no less (minus their connectivity/online issues).

[Vishera]

StemlPal is fact,but oh no it's being scalped.

[Vishera]

3 hours ago, Caroline said:

Unpopular opinion: consoles are fine if all you do is play some games every once in a while, you don't really need a $5000 PC in order to have some fun with friends on a pizza night.

I have a Playstation 3 and a PC - A lot of people have both a console and a PC.

[Mark Kaine]

On 7/31/2021 at 10:35 PM, Caroline said:

Unpopular opinion: consoles are fine if all you do is play some games every once in a while

Literally the reason consoles got popular: "you dont need a pc!" : D

 

 

 

[saltycaramel]

Linus at the beginning of this week WAN: “after years of having no relationship whatsoever with Valve, suddenly I’m catapulted into Valve HQ to check out the Steak Deck” (or something to that effect)

 

 

Looks like Gaben did watch that other previous WAN show, as we joked about back then.

[saltycaramel]

Linus: “the biggest hardware release of the year”

 

 

…I’m increasingly starting to think tech youtube may have jumped the shark nowadays. 

[WereCat]

Valve just released a video guide on how to disassemble the Steam Deck and change thumb sticks and SSD.

They really don't want YOU to take it apart though

 

 

[Forbidden Wafer]

1 hour ago, WereCat said:

They really don't want YOU to take it apart though

It is not nearly as bad as they say it is. Pretty much standard disassembly.

 

If it had flex cables soldered to the board passing along the bezels of the device and screwed from time to time, with a bunch of stuff glued preventing you from reaching it (e.g. iphone 12 pro), it would be a far different story.

 

[CerealExperimentsLain]

2 hours ago, WereCat said:

Valve just released a video guide on how to disassemble the Steam Deck and change thumb sticks and SSD.

They really don't want YOU to take it apart though

It's not that they don't want you too.  It's that they don't want to be held liable for anything that goes wrong if you do.

[Quackers101]

also not sure if what was shown in the video, but its a way to market their product and hopefully not giving away too much information and so that others feel less of a need to take it apart? not sure, as some people would maybe love to take it apart.

 

love how they in the video talk about the dangers of electric discharge while also notificing you of their misplaced discharge protection.

one could maybe fit more storage, and heat shield on ssd? 1TB max currently?