I need HELP with my new house...

[Plouffe]

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[Downkey]

3 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

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dam this must be important

[curiousmind34]

2 minutes ago, Downkey said:

dam this must be important

he needs HELP

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Wow, Linus really needs this help i guess

 

[Master Disaster]

Patrick at Serve The Home is your guy.

[rcai7774]

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[kelllen01]

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For Home automation look at DrZzs on youtube and drzzs.com, very helpful on home assistant.

[Energy1]

For the thermostat look at the Nest Heat Link, it looks like more of a UK thing but allows only 2 wires to go to the thermostat by having a box at the other end which wirelessly communicates with the thermostat so the wires can be used for just power. As its a UK thing I'm not 100% on the compatability with your heating system though and I doubt it will support AC.

 

Putting Nests in each area will be expensive but other thermostats have a similar system e.g Tado.

[da na]

Clicked on this thinking it was an actual topic...

[UnitedMi]

If Linus is here ready any of his call for help responses:

 

My house has radiate heat as well and may have a tip about helping to improve "smart control-ability" of the zones.  While my house only has 2 zones, the thermostats are also the 2 wire type.

 

I'd say do not try to swap out the valves.  Those are a standardized part which makes them easy to repair and replace.  I wiser route would be to use relays actuated by a controller to switch the existing transformer power.  Then you can freely swap the thermostat wires to be supplying power to your thermostats.  ATM I am using a temp sensor on an ESP32 to send current temp and setting the target temp in software (on wall thermostat creation was delayed do to other projects, but do plan on using existing thermostat wires to supply 12VDC).

 

This setup would allow you to have the smart control, but have the core parts of the boiler not be odd ball, and easily revertible if need be.

[Antsugames]

I would suggest that for the LAN station you build like a half circle... It would account for things like if you are all playing and would have an advantage if you looked on other screens... You wouldn't be able to do that so easily. Then you would see all of the screens (not sure where the entry was so just in case make it not that steep of an angle) and it would look really cool, like something in an e-sports tournament... and congratulations on the new house.

[jacobhopkins117]

For the thermostat issue: Tekmar makes the Invita Wifi thermostats that use 2 wires to control the thermostat wall panel, then communicates wirelessly to an interface located in the mechanical room where the zone valves would connect. ThisOldHouse did an episode on them. Only issue they're pretty expensive and don't have direct integration with HomeAssistant. Though they can be integrated through Alexa/Google Home and connected to HA. 

[Probuiltsystems]

I know you need help i am a contractor  who can help you with most of your problems you can hit me up i can be remote or on site i am local. I live in northern washington but would have no issue to make a trip upi there to help. I dont require payment or a plug just plane free help. worst case you could pay for a hotel lol. I am available because I am just recovering from an injury before that i was scheduled a year out. I am a licenced and bonded contractor

[ToboRobot]

My experience is mainly crawling in gross spaces to install radiant heating, and living in a farm house with wood fired radiant heating.

Because it isn't a quick means of varying the temperature, I'd install sensors in multiple places to get a reading of what each loop is doing, and centrally control for a desired comfort level, rather than give users control with thermostats.  

Probably trash the TV unit and start fresh, free up space in the room if you don't need the CRT cave.

[akio123008]

Thermostat:

 

In the boiler room, cut the thermostat wires and attach them to a relay board controlled by an arduino or similar microcontroller.

 

Then, in the house, replace each thermostat with a simple two-wire temperature sensor. Use the former thermostat wiring to connect these sensors back to the arduino/microcontroller in the boiler room.

 

The microcontroller can then monitor the temperature in every room and switch the relays of the heating system accordingly.

 

If you use something like an ESP32 as the controller it can also be operated remotely through wifi, and it will be able to interact with other smart devices.

 

 

[JPP]

I would recommend https://www.regincontrols.com/en/se/products/room-controllers/room-controllers/regio-midi--pre-programmed-room-controllers-with-communication/rc-c3doc/

Its a very easy thermostat but requires alot of wires depending on how much you want to plug in. It can control actuators like this https://www.regincontrols.com/en/se/products/valve-actuators/heating--cooling--ventilation/thermal-actuators-100-n-4-mm-stroke/  for both the heated floors and for the actuator on the fan air cooler, it also has a output for 0-10V DC to control the fan speed of the fan air cooler. They run on 24AC/DC and are very easy to exchange if they break (doesn't happen that often but sometimes).

One thermostat per "zone" and depending on how big the room is you might need to add an external temperature sensor.

 

The valve brand we use for the actuators is called MMA i dont know if you have them in Canada.

 

We connect the thermostats to our PLC systems through modbus protocol. The PLC system runs the ventilation, heating and cooling in big real estates, that way we can make a graphical interface of the building and set the temperatures of the thermostats individually, if you would like to be able to have a connection from the outside that can be setup with the PLC.

I think Regin have another system that don't require a PLC to make it  a graphical interface.

 

One thing to note with heated floors is that the water inside the pipes should not reach over 38 degrees celsius (stone floor) or 36 degrees (wooden floor).

On stone floor it can make the floor tiles crack and on wooden floor it make the floor rise.

 

Sorry for the bad English its my second language :)

 

 

[7heo]

Any reason why Linus isn't considering re-using the thermostat wires using something like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDI-12 or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Wire protocols? I would assume most if not all of the solutions recommended here are using one of those protocols and adding a fancy interface for a (quite hefty) price.

[Middcore]

48 minutes ago, rcai7774 said:

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[SmokelessCPU]

For the thermostat issue: For me the cheapest and more effective solution would be, keeping the existing valve and designing a custom board to controll these, Data and power over two wire is pretty easy, at least this way you're sure that the thermostat and the valve are always connected.

Designing such board is not difficult for every one that has a bit of electronic Knowledge.

I would opt for a custom PCB for two reason, is customized to fit your need, and will not have any crap like subscription or thing like these.

[Jtalk4456]

1 hour ago, Plouffe said:

Why is his face in this thumbnail full of fear?

 

I'd be in fear too if my house was that shade of pink lol

[flyboy777300er]

Regarding the thermostat issue, a thought occurred to me to use something along the lines of a powerline adapter and use those two lines for both power and data. There is a standard for low-bitrate applications called "HomePlug Green PHY" that might work in this scenario, or something else entirely. It would unfortunately likely mean custom electronics, but given the low bitrates the circuitry wouldn't be too complex.

[Energy1]

10 minutes ago, SmokelessCPU said:

For the thermostat issue: For me the cheapest and more effective solution would be, keeping the existing valve and designing a custom board to controll these, Data and power over two wire is pretty easy, at least this way you're sure that the thermostat and the valve are always connected.

Designing such board is not difficult for every one that has a bit of electronic Knowledge.

I would opt for a custom PCB for two reason, is customized to fit your need, and will not have any crap like subscription or thing like these.

You could make your own PCB for this but I'd imagine Linus would rather have something which just works and he doesn't need to mess around with, see the smart garage door videos... 2 wire smart thermostats exist for the european market.

[tfoote000]

For your thermostats, use a DHT22 and a ESP8266 or ESP32. You can make these using ESPHome which will automatically work with Home Assistant. Then you can write your automations for your heated floor or Air conditioner. For the heater and AC, just use Relays to trigger these devices in your home.

[7heo]

I feel like most of the posts in this thread are from new accounts made especially after the video and coming to post their "own" solution to the thermostat "problem", most of which end up being very similar or almost identical.

 

@Plouffe Should a separate thread be made for that particular problem?

[thisisjusting]

My nest runs my forced air ancient furnace on 2 wires. Not sure if this helps but you said no smart thermostat can work on 2 wires.

 

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