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Police in Ukraine have made a large bust of a cryptomining operation stealing $259,300/mo in electricity.

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Police in Ukraine have made a large bust of a cryptomining operation聽stealing $259,300/mo in electricity.

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A huge underground cryptocurrency mining operation has been busted by Ukraine police for allegedly stealing electricity from the grid.

Police said they'd seized 5,000 computers and 3,800 games consoles that were being used in the illegal mine, the largest discovered in the country.

The mine, in the city of Vinnytsia, near Kyiv, stole as much as $259,300 in electricity each month,the Security Service of Ukraine said. To conceal the theft, the operators of the mine used electricity meters that did not reflect their actual energy consumption, officials said.

My thoughts

Given how many people seem to attribute shortages to scalpers, it's interesting to see what else has been used. Take a look at the photos and notice the Playstation logo on them. Note those appear to be聽PS4's. Too bad the photos don't show anything else.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/look-inside-underground-crypto-mining-090129713.html

https://ssu.gov.ua/en/novyny/sbu-vykryla-naibilshu-kryptofermu-v-ukraini-maizhe-5-tys-kompiuteriv-mainyly-hroshi-na-vinnytsiaoblenerho

UPDATE:

https://delo.ua/econonomyandpoliticsinukraine/kriptovaljuta-vinnica-fifa-384126/

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ADelo.uasourcein the SBUadded that "top-end video cards" were seized, but this equipment has not really been evaluated yet.But on the issue of game consoles, our source put an end to it.

"It is on thePlayStationwaswellorganized Leveling bot for FIFA And then selling them." - said the sourceDelo.ua.

So the PS4's were for an illegal bot farm. Run through machine translation.

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14 minutes ago, jagdtigger said:

How the f they were mining on ps4s? :old-woah:

Apparently something exists, but I guess we'd need to know what game they used to exploit it聽since you can clearly see a disc sticking out of most of them.聽

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3 hours ago, emosun said:

yeah , who would have thought of shelves...

I think it was the foam spacer. 聽At least that stuck me as kind of a 鈥測eah鈥

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The natural projection for cryptomining is the only people that will be able to do it will be those that get the electricity for free somehow. So criminals and utilities聽only. I can see this one using techniques for finding pot grow farms. 聽One that I could see also is electric space heaters becoming computers. 聽Why have an electric heater that doesn鈥檛 do computing work? Same heat. Would need a commodity cpu though. 聽Something like that could become a thing where mining gets done only on cold days. A house聽with asic baseboard heating or something.

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15 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

The natural projection for cryptomining is the only people that will be able to do it will be those that get the electricity for free somehow. So criminals and utilities聽only. I can see this one using techniques for finding pot grow farms. 聽One that I could see also is electric space heaters becoming computers. 聽Why have an electric heater that doesn鈥檛 do computing work? Same heat. Would need a commodity cpu though. 聽Something like that could become a thing where mining gets done only on cold days. A house聽with asic baseboard heating or something.

I can optimize it further. Plant some Mary-Johanna and heat it with crypto mining righs around it. You'll mine crypto and use all that heat to grow the plants. And you can sell both then. Double efficiency.

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9 hours ago, jagdtigger said:

How the f they were mining on ps4s? :old-woah:

Probably alot easier to do when you don't have to worry about profitability as they are stealing electricity. Tbh that is a crazy number for electricity cost though.聽

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5 hours ago, RejZoR said:

I can optimize it further. Plant some Mary-Johanna and heat it with crypto mining righs around it. You'll mine crypto and use all that heat to grow the plants. And you can sell both then. Double efficiency.

"Double the efficiency, double the crime..."

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6 hours ago, RejZoR said:

I can optimize it further. Plant some Mary-Johanna and heat it with crypto mining righs around it. You'll mine crypto and use all that heat to grow the plants. And you can sell both then. Double efficiency.

6 hours ago, RejZoR said:

I can optimize it further. Plant some Mary-Johanna and heat it with crypto mining righs around it. You'll mine crypto and use all that heat to grow the plants. And you can sell both then. Double efficiency.

I could totally see that happening

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Everyone laughed at people saying that mining rigs use game consoles to mine with. I really never understood why people didn't think that they would find a way to use them.聽

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Thinking about that聽whole 鈥淩ussian hackers鈥 falderal. 聽Ukraine is apparently not an EU country. 聽It was Soviet bloc during the Cold War but that whole thing is long gone. 聽I don鈥檛 know how or to what degree聽it is allied with russia atm. 聽

I鈥檓 currently viewing most of that as being more or less volunteer created privateering with no actual letter of marque needed because of how things seem to work now. 聽I am a bit curious about the history of inter order criminal prosecution though

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Just now, Bombastinator said:

I don鈥檛 know how or to what degree聽it is allied with russia atm.

Haha oh boy. To a negative degree. Have a look at the borders on google maps.

12 hours ago, Kisai said:

stealing $259,300/mo in electricity.

The article says they used meters that didn't display the correct value, that shows how easy it apparently is to mess with that kind of stuff in these eastern european places. There could be a whole bunch more of these farms around.

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3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Thinking about that聽whole 鈥淩ussian hackers鈥 falderal. 聽Ukraine is apparently not an EU country. 聽It was Soviet bloc during the Cold War but that whole thing is long gone. 聽I don鈥檛 know how or to what degree聽it is allied with russia atm.聽

Yeah. Ukraine and Russia are definitely NOT allied right now. They haven't seen eye to eye in a long time.

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Got to give them credit, that wiring looks pretty good compared to some data centers I've seen.

I wonder how long it took them to get caught...I mean if you take the lower figure of $186,200 per month, assuming the rate is 19.5 (13*1.5) cents per kW (https://rubryka.com/en/article/elektroenergia-1-kvitny/)...that's 954.87 megawatts per month (30.8 mW/day or 1.28 mW/h).聽 If you take the upper range using 13cents per kW though it's 1,994 mW/month (64 mW/day or 2/68 mW/h)

I'd imagine that given they were in an energy crisis they would have spotted a rogue 1.28 mW/h...so it really makes me wonder how quickly they got caught

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4 minutes ago, wanderingfool2 said:

that's 954.87 megawatts per month (30.8 mW/day or 1.28 mW/h).聽 If you take the upper range using 13cents per kW though it's 1,994 mW/month (64 mW/day or 2/68 mW/h)

energy is in Wh, power in W.

954 MWh / month = 30.8MWh / day = 1.28MWh / hour聽

and since hour / hour = 1, MWh / hour = MW. The average power consumption would be 1.28MW. (the consumption of a passenger train accelerating at full power, and that's just on average)

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7 minutes ago, wanderingfool2 said:

Got to give them credit, that wiring looks pretty good compared to some data centers I've seen.

I wonder how long it took them to get caught...I mean if you take the lower figure of $186,200 per month, assuming the rate is 19.5 (13*1.5) cents per kW (https://rubryka.com/en/article/elektroenergia-1-kvitny/)...that's 954.87 megawatts per month (30.8 mW/day or 1.28 mW/h).聽 If you take the upper range using 13cents per kW though it's 1,994 mW/month (64 mW/day or 2/68 mW/h)

I'd imagine that given they were in an energy crisis they would have spotted a rogue 1.28 mW/h...so it really makes me wonder how quickly they got caught

My understanding is stealing electricity can be quite hard to detect depending on how it is done and how it is organized. 聽The trick apparently often involves a tap before the meter. 聽In the US it was quite common for illegal drug grow houses to steal the electricity they use to run grolights not because they even needed to buy because it made them harder to pinpoint. 聽One common police tactic was to use thermal cameras and look for buildings that were hotter than they should be according to bills.

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6 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

My understanding is stealing electricity can be quite hard to detect depending on how it is done and how it is organized. 聽The trick apparently often involves a tap before the meter. 聽In the US it was quite common for illegal drug grow houses to steal the electricity they use to run grolights

True, but stealing a casual 1.3MW on average is an entirely different level. Even a 125A three phase聽supply isn't big enough.

This isn't something you steal from a residential supply or a nearby lamppost聽馃槄

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24 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

One common police tactic was to use thermal cameras and look for buildings that were hotter than they should be according to bills.

Here they didn't even need thermal cameras. Just looking for houses without snow or ice on the roofs during winter would be enough to figure out who's cultivating groceries at home in their attic.

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How are they even mining btc on ps4's?

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8 minutes ago, ArdaBarda said:

How are they even mining btc on ps4's?

The PS4 has been cracked and can run whatever Linux programs you want, that means you can mine on them

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