This MUST Be Fake - Cheap "New" eBay Extreme Edition CPUs

[jakkuh_t]

 

[SorryBella]

I genuinely didnt expect the Intel HEDT to fell off this bad. Jeez.

 

Whilst its cool and all, im very very surprised that we didnt talk about the heat output. At about 200W Peak for the same performance of the ryzen 3000 series that runs at 50W less, all the savings could just be burnt off solely from having to get a beefier cooler.

 

But i do see it in the case of high pcie lane usage as Linus eluded to. Its great to see for budget workstations, but in a value conscious normies? Yeah, still a no.

[sub68]

Werid qustion where can I get the STL files for the CPU case?

[Hunter259]

I own one of these chips. Besides damage I already knew was there, mine has HORRENDOUS core to core deltas of as high as 35c. And this is also direct die. Thank god I don't do full 18 core loads very often.

[OfficialTechSpace]

Even at $425 USD they're not really worth it in 2021. It's cool that they're about 79% cheaper than MSRP now, but that's for good reason.

 

Their IPC is about 30+% slower than 11th Gen Intel and Ryzen 5000, even with the extra cores/threads that's difficult to justify in niche workstation uses.

 

A 10900/K or 5900X would be much better all-round, and they're not even THAT much more expensive (+$63 for 10900, +$124 for 5900X).

 

Good quality AM4 and/or LGA1200 boards are easier to find than X99's for reasonable prices as well, plus there's no need to buy them used.

[mariushm]

I disagree with what is said in the video about Intel manufacturing processors just because they have idle factory. I doubt that happens.

 

I think the reality is most likely these are pulled from datacenters which lease servers and then replace them after a few years with something more powerful and less power hungry.

 

You could have a generic datacenter with 5000 servers equipped with  those 18 core CPUs and they replace them with some EPYC servers and they sell them to these companies which sell the processors separately.

Datacenters may have spare parts, may have excess inventory due to leasing or buying in volume to get better pricing and so on..

 

Here's for example a listing on a hosting forum :

 

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300x
D51B-1U 10x 2.5" (2x NVMe 8x SATA)
2x E5-2695v4
384GB DDR4 Memory
2x HDD/SSD Trays
2x X540-AT2 Onboard
Dual PSU
Rails
$1,749each
 

 

300 pcs were sold within a couple of months.  The processors sell for around 450$ on ebay so there's 900$ there, 16 GB of registered DDR4  is around 50$ so I don't even want to do the math there, the power supplies can go to miners or you can sell the chasis with power supplies and a single cheaper cpu as a package.

[Results45]

Does the whole "hack around the PCIe" to get a video output out of old Tesla K40/K80/M40/M60 as well as P104 and CMP 30-40-50-90HX mining cards still worth it?

 

If so then one can build a pretty decent (relatively in 2021) sub-$1500 gaming/workstation rig.

 

• "Like New Refurbished" 14-Core 7940X ($350)
• Used X299 Mobo ($200)
• Tesla M40 12GB ~ GTX 1070 8GB ($250-$320)
• Used 2 x dual OLOY or Gskill Aegis 8GB DDR4-3000 RAM kits ~ 32GB total ($120-$140)
• 1 x Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB M.2-2280 NVME SSD ($110)
• Seagate EXOS 8TB 7200RPM HDD ($210)
• Noctua U14S ($80)
• Fractal Design Ion+ 850W Gold PSU ($120)
• Used Fractal Design Meshify Case ($70)

[richmond2000]

I was given an EVGA X299 DARK mobo a year ago and have not looked for a CPU since "GPU-ageddon" started and back then saw NOTHING under about $900 

$400 upgrade from a 4 core / thread to a 10 / 20 AND a better mobo for ME is NOT a bad deal  

[SADS]

I came here for a TLDR because I hate the clickbait titles

Got the gist from the first 3 posts!

[silentdragon95]

I was actually mildly tempted by these for a second, as it would certainly be an upgrade from my X79 8-Core Xeon on steroids, but alas, if I really wanted to upgrade this thing right now (which I don't really do) it would probably make way more sense to go with an R9 5900X for slightly more money. Although there's no denying that HEDT is just cool.

7 hours ago, richmond2000 said:

I was given an EVGA X299 DARK mobo a year ago and have not looked for a CPU since "GPU-ageddon" started and back then saw NOTHING under about $900 

$400 upgrade from a 4 core / thread to a 10 / 20 AND a better mobo for ME is NOT a bad deal  

Yeah, similar to X79 a few years ago, assuming you already have a compatible motherboard one of these CPUs could be a very worthwile upgrade.

[RageTester]

19 hours ago, mariushm said:

16 GB of registered DDR4  is around 50$

On what planet?

I paid almost $100 for the kit of 2, and it was DDR3...

Maybe we are just getting ripped off so much in my country: https://www.balticdata.lv/lv/datoru-komponentes/operativas-atminas-ram/operativa-atmina-patriot-pv316g160c9k

 

 

I wouldn't mind getting a big CPU. There are ways to throttle some cores when you don't need them, so power use could be controlled, right?

[mariushm]

8 minutes ago, RageTester said:

On what planet?

I paid almost $100 for the kit of 2, and it was DDR3...

Maybe we are just getting ripped off so much in my country: https://www.balticdata.lv/lv/datoru-komponentes/operativas-atminas-ram/operativa-atmina-patriot-pv316g160c9k

 

More than 10 available, 152 sold  $55 :  : NEW SAMSUNG M393A2K43CB2-CTD 16GB PC4-21300 DDR4-2666MHz ECC SERVER MEMORY | eBay

Free shipping from US.

 

More than 10 available, 152 sold  $55 : Cisco UCS UCS-MR-1X162RU-A 16GB DDR4-2133-MHz RDIMM/PC3-17000 2Rx4 | eBay

 

The above is kinda crappy as 2Rx4 but others are available for around 50-60$... if you buy a few sticks, they'll accept offers.

 

I was talking about Registered memory, which is for servers... as I was calculating how much would 384 GB of ram be worth.

 

[Freeman]

Yes, these would be great in a home server, so it'd be great if you could fill in their power consumption at idle and under load, compared to Ryzen and also elaborate more on the available MOBOs and the PCI-e expansion they offer at different price-points, since if I have to spend extra in order to utilize the extra, although slower, PCI lanes and then spend more money running it, it might be quite a bad deal...