Windows 11 Readiness Check (WhyNotWin11)

[rcmaehl]

5 minutes ago, Shadowcloud said:

Getting this error now, and afterwards an empty window with an OK button with the title "Out". Not entirely sure why.

 

I may have attached the wrong compiled version... oops 1 sec

[rcmaehl]

3 minutes ago, rcmaehl said:

I may have attached the wrong compiled version... oops 1 sec

Fixed and reuploaded

[Shadowcloud]

7 minutes ago, rcmaehl said:

Fixed and reuploaded

Thank you, now it only says that the check failed and is considered to be Not Present. (And Defender now considers it as a virus...)

I don't seem to have much luck with Windows 11 at that point. TPM is not present, even after I enabled it in the Bios now.
The boot is still legacy and my drive is not in GPT format. 
I don't know if I want to reinstall my Windows again now though, because I just did that a few months ago, and especially because my Ryzen 1800X isn't even listed as compatible CPU on the official site. Not sure why though. Not even my Laptops i7-7500U seems to be supported, but at least your tool shows the correct variables for the three things.

 

Are these compatible CPU lists just not complete, or is there really something preventing me from running Windows 11 when I should be able to fix the other issues?

[rcmaehl]

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And Defender now considers it as a virus...

HECK.

 

8 minutes ago, Shadowcloud said:

Thank you, now it only says that the check failed and is considered to be Not Present. (And Defender now considers it as a virus...)

I don't seem to have much luck with Windows 11 at that point. TPM is not present, even after I enabled it in the Bios now.
The boot is still legacy and my drive is not in GPT format. 
I don't know if I want to reinstall my Windows again now though, because I just did that a few months ago, and especially because my Ryzen 1800X isn't even listed as compatible CPU on the official site. Not sure why though. Not even my Laptops i7-7500U seems to be supported, but at least your tool shows the correct variables for the three things.

 

Are these compatible CPU lists just not complete, or is there really something preventing me from running Windows 11 when I should be able to fix the other issues?

The CPU lists are a "soft floor". You will still be able to install if not on that list but it'll gripe at you during the install

[Shadowcloud]

Just now, rcmaehl said:

The CPU lists are a "soft floor". You will still be able to install if not on that list but it'll gripe at you during the install

So the CPU lists are basically useless, since it will run anyways as long as the other things are fine? 
I'm just not too sure, why my Laptop is considered to not be compatible then, but I guess the official checking tool just sees the incompatible CPU and is like "Nah, mate. Can't do that." ?

[rcmaehl]

1 minute ago, Shadowcloud said:

So the CPU lists are basically useless, since it will run anyways as long as the other things are fine? 
I'm just not too sure, why my Laptop is considered to not be compatible then, but I guess the official checking tool just sees the incompatible CPU and is like "Nah, mate. Can't do that." ?

CPU lists are probably what you'll want to aim for in a couple years but aren't going to be an issue right away, assuming that the other values check out you should be able to install/run. The actual Microsoft compatibility tool's code is heavy obfuscated and may be hiding extra undocumented checks.

[drjaymz]

Sorry mate, even though your machine meets the requirement we think you should buy a new PC anyway?

So I have the sacred TPM 2.0 and Secure boot but their tool still says no.  My CPU is a 2020 mid range CPU so can't really see that as a problem.

[champ06]

24 minutes ago, drjaymz said:

Sorry mate, even though your machine meets the requirement we think you should buy a new PC anyway?

So I have the sacred TPM 2.0 and Secure boot but their tool still says no.  My CPU is a 2020 mid range CPU so can't really see that as a problem.

Processor is not in the supported processor list... Only from 8th gen processors are supported

[drjaymz]

23 minutes ago, champ06 said:

Processor is not in the supported processor list... Only from 8th gen processors are supported

If it can be persuaded to install it will be fine, I ran the leaked copy just fine on this machine within a VM (which I don't think reports any TPM).  There are a couple of issues with Microsoft's statement that it will be fine on modern PC's.  We have a office full of PC's that are about a year old none will run it.  Many home laptops bought in the last 18 months will be in the sub £1000 and they won't run it either so I would say that the majority of machines wouldn't run it.

 

The next problem would seem to be that there are another group of PC's that could meet the requirement, but its beyond your average user to change the settings in the BIOS to secure boot and enable TPM 2.0 without borking their current Windows 10 boot process or rendering it unbootable.  Thats why I think there is encouragement to just get a new PC.  But that's a bit unfair when there is a global chip shortage pushing prices up and its not environmentally sound either.

 

Finally, TPM itself is under embargo and is not globally supported due to specific country restrictions.  So it will be interesting to see how that plays out.  Because you can't be saying you will end support of w10 in 2025 AND win11 only works with TPM AND TPM isn't globally supported.  They would if they were Apple but they aren't.  On the other hand, we do need to push things forward and its only really a new OS that does that.  

[Mark Kaine]

15 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

You don't have a TPM installed (or, if installed, enabled)
Your computer is still using legacy boot instead of UEFI

And your PC is still on the old MBR partitioning method

 

All of these make your PC incompatible.

Whats funny to me, isnt that all things that have been recommended the past decade or so?

 

Especially the MBR thing… like 99% sure i couldnt install windows (10) on my laptop before using MBR.

 

im also pretty sure my pc wouldnt even boot without "legacy" settings.

 

Im just saying if that will be the true requirements for "windows 11" we're in for a ride lol.

 

 

[throwaway3224]

Interesting Read:
TPM recommendations (Microsoft)

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/tpm/tpm-recommendations 

[The Torrent]

21 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

You don't have a TPM installed (or, if installed, enabled)
Your computer is still using legacy boot instead of UEFI

And your PC is still on the old MBR partitioning method

 

All of these make your PC incompatible.

How to fix?

[The Torrent]

21 hours ago, Mel0nMan said:

Means you don't have a TPM, your system doesn't support UEFI, and your disk isn't GPT compatible.

I built this pc like a year ago and obsoletr already oh well for futureproofing

[da na]

Just now, The Torrent said:

I built this pc like a year ago and obsoletr already oh well for futureproofing

I feel you man, built a workstation last summer (to be fair it was with older hardware) but I didn't expect it to be irrelevant this quickly.

[The Torrent]

1 minute ago, Mel0nMan said:

I feel you man, built a workstation last summer (to be fair it was with older hardware) but I didn't expect it to be irrelevant this quickly.

Do u know which parts specifically on my pc are too old to support windows 11?

[Kilrah]

Nothing, just a question of configuration. 

[da na]

3 minutes ago, The Torrent said:

Do u know which parts specifically on my pc are too old to support windows 11?

Well, your TPM and your motherboard most likely

[throwaway3224]

Microsoft have removed references to hard vs soft requirements.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-11-specifications

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/windows-11/

 

And they are doubling down on the CPU list on twitter.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors 

https://twitter.com/dispensa/status/1408478280848527360

 

[Vishera]

On 6/24/2021 at 9:57 PM, aeliasov9 said:

Chrome

They spy on you.

[theswweet]

@rcmaehl you should update the tool to not check Secure Boot, as it's not actually required to be enabled to pass the check. You just need to be on UEFI and have TPM enabled. This is even on the latest update for the app.

[rcmaehl]

2 hours ago, theswweet said:

@rcmaehl you should update the tool to not check Secure Boot, as it's not actually required to be enabled to pass the check. You just need to be on UEFI and have TPM enabled. This is even on the latest update for the app.

It's TODO. Don't worry. Probably will be out in 2.2.0 along with other fixes

[Sir Asvald]

Lmao. I Just installed Windows 11 on my ESXi "server" everything works fine:

 

 

 

 

[Vishera]

1 hour ago, Sir Asvald said:

Lmao. I Just installed Windows 11 on my ESXi "server" everything works fine:

It's not the retail version,there will be differences between the versions.

[Ash_Kechummm]

So i ran this on my old PC, and the TPM check failed (as expected), but i expected the directx support to fail as well (see GPU-Z info underlined on the left); the application thinks i do have directx12 support. Any idea why?

[Tan3l6]

I'm running 11 on this PC - https://icecat.biz/en/p/fujitsu/vfy-c5730ppad1de/esprimo-pcs-workstations-esprimo+c5730-5640319.html

Although with 8GB of RAM and an external SSD. Oh, and it's C2Q actually: