pcpartpicker Help With My First PC Part List

[faabje]

Budget (including currency): €1300

Country: Netherlands

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Games: Minecraft, GTA V, RDR 2, R6 ect | Streaming/Recording with Streamlab

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Hi there, I want to make my first PC, and I am making my part list, but I'm over my budget already and want to know if some part can be better. I have watched some videos about this, but I need an opinion from somebody else! If you guys can help me, that would be very useful! I'm in the Netherlands and I have already found a grapisch card! And it would be useful if you can say why you chanced that, so I can learn from it =D

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yk2Kt8

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€269.89 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
CPU Cooler: EVGA CLC 240 74.82 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€97.78 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€74.04 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4000 CL19 Memory  (€104.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€56.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€114.50 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case: Thermaltake Level 20 VT MicroATX Desktop Case  (€128.90 @ Megekko) 
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€56.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan  (€16.89 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Custom: MSI RTX2060 Super Gaming X (€450.00)
Total: €1369.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-24 16:14 CEST+0200

[puppo]

sure i can help you, give me 5 minutes :)))

[faabje]

Thanks!

[Downkey]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€298.95 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€116.95 @ Azerty)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€83.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€56.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.85 @ Azerty)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.29 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€78.26 @ Megekko)
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan  (€16.89 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Total: €775.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-24 16:19 CEST+0200

[Somerandomtechyboi]

I think a scythe fuma 2 would be a better choice than a 240mm aio while having similar performance and being cheaper than a 240mm aio.

 

4000mhz ram has rather bad value, just get a 3600mhz ram kit and overclock that to 4000mhz.

 

I think you will atleast want to get a 600w psu instead of a 500w psu.

 

Dont spend an absurd amount of money on the case, at this budget just go for a 50€ or 60€ case instead.

 

And you may want to get a b550 motherboard instead of a b450.

 

Otherwise decent build with a few questionable parts choices

[faabje]

Thanks everybody who helped/helping =D

[puppo]

8 minutes ago, faabje said:

Thanks!

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/ghWnRT

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€269.89 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€66.85 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€115.05 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€95.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€56.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.85 @ Azerty) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.95 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.85 @ Megekko) 
Custom: MSI RTX2060 Super Gaming X (€450.00)
Total: €1287.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-24 16:26 CEST+0200

[Downkey]

4 minutes ago, puppo said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/ghWnRT

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€269.89 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€66.85 @ Megekko) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€115.05 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€95.00 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€56.90 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.85 @ Azerty) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.95 @ Amazon Netherlands) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.85 @ Megekko) 
Custom: MSI RTX2060 Super Gaming X (€450.00)
Total: €1287.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-24 16:26 CEST+0200

Get rid of the AIO, swap the kit for a 3200 Cl16 kit (just as fast), Swap the SSD for an NVME drive (SN550, A200, A80, SN750), also it seems that you are going for an ATX build while OP wanted a MicroATX build. Looks ok otherwise.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

4 minutes ago, Downkey said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€298.95 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€116.95 @ Azerty)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€83.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€56.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.85 @ Azerty)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.29 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€78.26 @ Megekko)
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan  (€16.89 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Total: €775.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-24 16:19 CEST+0200

To elaborate on the why @Downkey chose these parts:

 

CPU: The 5600X is just straight up better than the 3700X. It's newer, and the extra price is worth it.

 

CPU Cooler: The 5600X comes with a suitable one. You can add one later if you want.

 

Motherboard: B550 is a newer chipset than B450. The Aorus Pro is also of higher quality.

 

Memory: The kit you picked would likely not work with your chip (4000Mhz) and was over priced. 3600Mhz CL16 is recommend for Ryzen 5000 series, but 3200Mhz CL16 provides most of the performance at a discount.

 

Storage: The WD black drive you chose is over priced, and the WD Blue SSD you chose was SATA, not NVME, so much slower. An A2000 as a boot drive and a Barracuda as a storage/games drive is a much better combo, and for cheaper.

 

Case: The airflow in the one you chose looks poor based on the closed off front panel. The MB311L is much better and is pretty cheap, too.

 

Power Supply: EVGA BQ, is not very good. Don't cheap out on the PSU. The TXM series is high quality.

 

Case fan: Is good.

[Lurick]

There is 3600 RAM with slightly better CAS (16-18-18-38) timings @Downkey for about $15 more and with the headroom left in the build OP could easily afford to swap those in as well:

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, Lurick said:

There is 3600 RAM with slightly better CAS (16-18-18-38) timings @Downkey for about $15 more and with the headroom left in the build OP could easily afford to swap those in as well:

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

And im pretty sure it will oc to 4000mhz aswell unlike 3200mhz ram which will prob oc to 3600mhz just fine but 4000mhz may need looser timings or just a crap ton of extra voltage or not even be attainable at all, id expect at most 3733 out of 3200mhz sticks and 4266 from 3600mhz sticks.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

5 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

And im pretty sure it will oc to 4000mhz aswell unlike 3200mhz ram which will prob oc to 3600mhz just fine but 4000mhz may need looser timings or just a crap ton of extra voltage or not even be attainable at all, id expect at most 3733 out of 3200mhz sticks and 4266 from 3600mhz sticks.

How far a particular kit will OC has very little to to with the stock XMP profile. I have a 3200Mhz kit happily humming along at 4000Mhz at this very moment. The sticks themselves could go further, it is the IMC on my 9900K and the topology of the Maximus XI Hero that is the limiter.

 

Furthermore, in this case with a Ryzen CPU, OCing to 4000Mhz is heavily dependent not on the RAM, but on the max FCLK attainable. Most chips will max out at 1800Mhz, while some can hit 2000Mhz (RAM at 3800Mhz and 4000Mhz respectively).

[Somerandomtechyboi]

16 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

How far a particular kit will OC has very little to to with the stock XMP profile. I have a 3200Mhz kit happily humming along at 4000Mhz at this very moment. The sticks themselves could go further, it is the IMC on my 9900K and the topology of the Maximus XI Hero that is the limiter.

 

Furthermore, in this case with a Ryzen CPU, OCing to 4000Mhz is heavily dependent not on the RAM, but on the max FCLK attainable. Most chips will max out at 1800Mhz, while some can hit 2000Mhz (RAM at 3800Mhz and 4000Mhz respectively).

So could a 3200mhz kit do 4266 if you set the fclk ram ratio to asynchronous?

 

And does the ram voltage have any effects on the attainable ram speed or timings (assuming fclk isnt an issue)?

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

Just now, Somerandomtechyboi said:

So could a 3200mhz kit do 4266 if you set the fclk ram ratio to asynchronous?

Some can, some can't. The XMP profile does not provide the information you need to determine if it will or won't. You would need information about the Chips and PCB.

 

My 4x 8GB Samsung B-die 3200Mhz CL14 kit would do 4266 if I loosened the timings enough. I get better latency at 4000Mhz, so that's where I run them.

 

1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

And does the ram voltage have any effects on the attainable ram speed or timings

Of course. RAM voltage has more effect on timings than speed, while IMC related voltages have more effect on speed than timings, generally speaking.

[faabje]

Thanks everyone for helping me! I have learned a lot of this, and I am happy with the help

[faabje]

3 hours ago, Downkey said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€298.95 @ Megekko)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO-P Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€116.95 @ Azerty)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€83.90 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€56.00 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.85 @ Azerty)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L ARGB MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.29 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€78.26 @ Megekko)
Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1500 PWM 78.69 CFM 140 mm Fan  (€16.89 @ Amazon Netherlands)
Total: €775.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-24 16:19 CEST+0200

@Downkey Final thing, I know about the 'problem' of updating the BIOS but is it possible here or is that not the case? Also, like Lurik said, I have added the 3600 RAM. Besides that, thank you for your help!