Will i benefit from a capture card

[MingLee420]

So i recently got into streaming on twitch and its going well although i do have to limit my fps in order for the stream to look sorta good because the max bitrate was 6000 and i was thinking to just get a capture card cuz i want max settings and unlocked fps so i have 2pc's one is main and the 2nd pc is just an i5-8400 no gpu and idk if an i5-8400 would be able to stream all the things with the capture card

[Moonzy]

If your first system spec is sufficient, I don't see why you'd need another system

 

But if you want all the fps, then sure

[MingLee420]

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

If your first system spec is sufficient, I don't see why you'd need another system

 

But if you want all the fps, then sure

could you recommend me a capture card im on a tight budget and can't get an elgato also do you think the i5-8400 would do fine? im will be using obs on both pc's

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, MingLee420 said:

could you recommend me a capture card im on a tight budget and can't get an elgato 

I don't really know much about these so I can't really recommend anything

But I do own one cheapo USB capture card, it's only $8 or something and does the job okay

I think eposvox recommended it, saying it's decent, but I heard there's some issues with 60fps, so there's that

 

4 minutes ago, MingLee420 said:

Do you think the i5-8400 would do fine?

It might do x264 slow(?)

Though it depends on your resolution and fps

 

5 minutes ago, MingLee420 said:

im will be using obs on both pc's

Why would you use OBS on both PC if only one is going to stream it?

[MingLee420]

3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

I don't really know much about these so I can't really recommend anything

But I do own one cheapo USB capture card, it's only $8 or something and does the job okay

I think eposvox recommended it, saying it's decent, but I heard there's some issues with 60fps, so there's that

 

It might do x264 slow(?)

Though it depends on your resolution and fps

 

Why would you use OBS on both PC if only one is going to stream it?

oh i though you'd need obs on both pc's 

also the res is 936p 60fps

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, MingLee420 said:

the res is 936p 60fps

Should do fine

 

Though I still personally prefer to do it from a single PC, you get more control of things like virtual audio cable and what not, but I'm sure you'll figure something out

[WereCat]

If you have an GTX 1650 Super or better then the NVENC on it is better than what you would get with the i5 8400.

 

Regarding bitrate... 6000 is recommended. I've been using 8000 bitrate without issues. 

Obviously, the viewers then have to have faster connection as well to watch you. 

[MingLee420]

42 minutes ago, WereCat said:

If you have an GTX 1650 Super or better then the NVENC on it is better than what you would get with the i5 8400.

 

Regarding bitrate... 6000 is recommended. I've been using 8000 bitrate without issues. 

Obviously, the viewers then have to have faster connection as well to watch you. 

i dont have a gpu for the 2nd pc also even 200 over 6000 bitrate dosen't let me stream, ive heard if you're an affiliate you get better quality or something but idk

[WereCat]

23 minutes ago, MingLee420 said:

i dont have a gpu for the 2nd pc also even 200 over 6000 bitrate dosen't let me stream, ive heard if you're an affiliate you get better quality or something but idk

But what's in your main PC? I was trying to say that you may not need 2nd PC at all as it's usually more hassle than it's worth.

[MingLee420]

7 minutes ago, WereCat said:

But what's in your main PC? I was trying to say that you may not need 2nd PC at all as it's usually more hassle than it's worth.

irs a 2070s and 10700k but id want max fps for playing so i was planning to dual pc stream

[LogicalDrm]

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You limit fps from your recording/streaming software. Not from the game. You can game on higher fps just fine and just limit output to stream. Its not like we are still in 2010s. Capture cards have passthrough limitation because of what connections can carry.

[ProBottler]

2 hours ago, MingLee420 said:

irs a 2070s and 10700k but id want max fps for playing so i was planning to dual pc stream

Have you tried using the NVENC encoder with that pc?
Turing NVENC improves quite a lot in quality compare to Pascal NVENC (iirc it matches x264 Slow in terms of quality) while doesn't eat up as much resources as x264. Recent Windows and OBS updates has brought fixes to the GPU allocation issue that plagues some FPS game like Apex and PUBG.

[MingLee420]

48 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

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You limit fps from your recording/streaming software. Not from the game. You can game on higher fps just fine and just limit output to stream. Its not like we are still in 2010s. Capture cards have passthrough limitation because of what connections can carry.

my obs is limited to 60 fps at 936p and playing any game i would have to limit my fps

[MingLee420]

31 minutes ago, ProBottler said:

Have you tried using the NVENC encoder with that pc?
Turing NVENC improves quite a lot in quality compare to Pascal NVENC (iirc it matches x264 Slow in terms of quality) while doesn't eat up as much resources as x264. Recent Windows and OBS updates has brought fixes to the GPU allocation issue that plagues some FPS game like Apex and PUBG.

ive been using nvenc new the whole time

[LogicalDrm]

31 minutes ago, MingLee420 said:

my obs is limited to 60 fps at 936p and playing any game i would have to limit my fps

? Do you get something odd if you don't limit it from the game? Granted, last time I've streamed games it was 2014, but even then streaming at 720p30 and game was running at 70+fps just fine.