What happened to things like the 1600AF? Where is modern equivalent?

[Mister Woof]

1 hour ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

As I said, the GPU is being the bottleneck in my scenario, so I could go higher if I had a better GPU without the CPU being an issue. And my point was addressing the "iT cAnT rUn tHe gAmE", not the "bUt cAn iT rUn aT 4k uLtrA?"

and those are representative of real life scenarios when and where?

Are you blind, can you not see the 5600x, beating the 10900k in gaming? Must I point it out for you? Your ignorance is beyond belief. And Intel is not better for multi tasking, and hasn't been for a while.

Nice cherry picking. Tell me again how 700fps is more useful than 540 fps?

 

Can you not see the 10900k beating the 5800x in gaming? Must I point it out for you?

 

Oh right, cherry picking intel there. That's not helpful at all. My bad. How about this?

 

When you do a geomean of many tests in many games that actually matter:

 

 

The 10900k still beats 5800x and below, or the difference is so small you could just say the experience is identical. 

 

 

[Vishera]

6 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

The 10900k still beats 5800x and below, or the difference is so small you could just say the experience is identical. 

 

The FPS is so high that it doesn't matter...

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

The FPS is so high that it doesn't matter...

IDK about you but I can tell the difference between 700fps and 500fps.

[tdkid]

you forgot the RGB,  the RGB is key to everything.

[Mister Woof]

22 minutes ago, tdkid said:

you forgot the RGB,  the RGB is key to everything.

The most truthful comment in this entire thread and I support it 100%

 

A newer review:

 

11 games, barely any difference between 10900k and 5950x (3%), and no difference between 10900k and 5800x (1fps)

 

I'll agree the 11900k and 11th gen in general is trash, though.

[AndreiArgeanu]

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[Mister Woof]

1 hour ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

Cherry pick what? I just looked at the reviews of the 5600X from GN and LTT and the 5600x won more times than it lost, and the graphs you provided seem to lack the 5600X. And I'm unsure if you're capable of reading, but nowhere did I say that 700fps is more useful 540 fps, you're just going off on a tangent on an argument I never made, I just picked the first screenshots I could get out of the LTT video.

 

Here's all the Gaming benchmarks out of both the LTT and GN video.

Here's where the 5600X was on par or better than the 10900k.

 

 

 

Here's where the 5600X got beaten by the 10900K.

 

If you haven't noticed, I haven't cherry picked these benchmarks.

Last I checked:

 

11 samples > 5 samples

 

and 

 

11 samples > 9 samples

 

I'll raise your 2 sources with my 5:

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2134-amd-ryzen-5800x/

 

Maybe Tech power up 720p? Like, zero difference.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x/15.html

 

How about guru3d?

 

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_5800x_review,26.html

 

Or perhaps Kitguru?

 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-cpu-review/10/

 

Or maybe you prefer Tom's hardware? Almost everyone I know runs their 10900k at 5.1 or 5.2. OC for OC, they're identical also. Even in the most damning review here, it still keeps up with the right settings.
 

 

believe what you want; there is not a large difference between these chips.

 

I love gamers nexus. But their reviews in regards to gaming is very, very small sample size. I wish HUB would do a giant 30+ game benchmark that included the 10900k, but they didn't. But EVEN in their tests, your comparison is <2% in favor of the 5600x.

 

They did do a 10700k vs 5800x though, and this is what they found a 4% difference between a 11700k and a 5800x. And we know the 10900k is better than  11900k. But either way, 4% is not very significant.

 

 

I've recommended the 5800x repeatedly on this forum, but the 5800x isn't meaningfully better than the 10900k and it's this antagonistic AMD fanboyism that continues to spread hyperbole about how great the Ryzen 5000 series is.

 

Let's just ignore that it's taken 4 generations of Ryzen to reach parity with Intel. And yet...people thought those were fine chips. Funny.

[jwwagner25]

wow, not where I expected the thread to go. I'll never get back those ten minutes.