Does 5600x perform well on ROG STRIX B450-F Gaming motherboard? or does the motherboard hold back the cpu?

[NoobDaddy]

I got a 3600x on B450-F gaming motherboard

it can not maintain a 165hz whole game in league of legends. 

do i need to upgrade to 5600x? kinda weird my question.

Oh i have a 3080 Eagle OC and 2 sticks of 8gb of 3066hz ram (cause 3200hz dont boot)

[Omar.B]

3 minutes ago, NoobDaddy said:

I got a 3600x on B450-F gaming motherboard

The ROG is overkill for the 3600x

3 minutes ago, NoobDaddy said:

it can not maintain a 165hz whole game in league of legends. 

The 3080 is for 2k and 4k gaming mainly if you playing on 1080p that's not the card for it a 3060 will be a better pair  

3 minutes ago, NoobDaddy said:

do i need to upgrade to 5600x? kinda weird my question.

That will be better for gaming experience and will reduce the bottleneck on 3080 if you are going to change the monitor  

3 minutes ago, NoobDaddy said:

Oh i have a 3080 Eagle OC and 2 sticks of 8gb of 3066hz ram (cause 3200hz dont boot)

I don't know the solution for this but what is the ram you are using and if its the board just sell it and get a b550 tuf or tomahawk better than the b450 boards  

[Smarttech47]

No, 3600x to 5600x is not a good Idea. Only like 7 percent performance increase. 3700x is better. Yes, should work. 

[NoobDaddy]

4 minutes ago, Omar.B said:

The ROG is overkill for the 3600x

The 3080 is for 2k and 4k gaming mainly if you playing on 1080p that's not the card for it a 3060 will be a better pair  

That will be better for gaming experience and will reduce the bottleneck on 3080 if you are going to change the monitor  

I don't know the solution for this but what is the ram you are using and if its the board just sell it and get a b550 tuf or tomahawk better than the b450 boards  

thank you Omar.B i read somewhere that the 5800x is held back if you use a b450 motherboard. does that hold true also for the 5600x?

yea sadly im still gaming on 1080p. but will buy 1440p monitor soon. just waiting for good deals. 

My motherboard is kinda weird sometimes ram slots dont work. after i reformat they work again. highest i got my ram to OC is 3133hz i havent got the 3200hz but its okay. its a very small difference.  I have a Dominator 3200mhz CL 16 ram.

[NoobDaddy]

1 minute ago, Smarttech47 said:

No, 3600x to 5600x is not a good Idea. Only like 7 percent performance increase. 3700x is better. Yes, should work. 

but if i play league of legends with it. what if it only has the same fps with it?

my other games are monster hunter world: iceborne, hearthstone.

[Omar.B]

5 minutes ago, NoobDaddy said:

thank you Omar.B i read somewhere that the 5800x is held back if you use a b450 motherboard. does that hold true also for the 5600x?

No it wont be held back but why not getting b550?

5 minutes ago, NoobDaddy said:

yea sadly im still gaming on 1080p. but will buy 1440p monitor soon. just waiting for good deals. 

My motherboard is kinda weird sometimes ram slots dont work. after i reformat they work again. highest i got my ram to OC is 3133hz i havent got the 3200hz but its okay. its a very small difference.  I have a Dominator 3200mhz CL 16 ram.

check the store you bought the MB from it could be damaged or there's a problem with the ram sticks 

[NoobDaddy]

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1 minute ago, Omar.B said:

No it wont be held back but why not getting b550?

check the store you bought the MB from it could be damaged or there's a problem with the ram sticks 

cause it saves me some if i dont need to buy a new motherboars. i bought my system last sept 2020. thank you for reply sir Omar.B

 

yea but the motherboard is functioning again so its okay i guess. 

[Omar.B]

1 minute ago, NoobDaddy said:

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cause it saves me some if i dont need to buy a new motherboars. i bought my system last sept 2020. thank you for reply sir Omar.B

 

yea but the motherboard is functioning again so its okay i guess. 

No problem at all I'm glad that I helped even a bit 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just overclock your cpu till it reaches 95c or needs more than 1.45v to be stable, that should add a few more fps

[NoobDaddy]

9 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Just overclock your cpu till it reaches 95c or needs more than 1.45v to be stable, that should add a few more fps

i dont think overclock will do it. other 3080 playing lol have like 400-500 fps. im struggling to get 165hz. thank you for the suggestion

[Omar.B]

13 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Just overclock your cpu till it reaches 95c or needs more than 1.45v to be stable, that should add a few more fps

overclock a 3600 or 3600x is really bad from my experience and with a good cooler it will boast auto  

[CryingWimp]

A 3600x will 100% be the bottleneck with a 3080. Anyone who has actually used a 3080-3090 will tell you it requires a beefy CPU to keep up.

 

Like others have said, a 3600x to 5600x wouldn't be a massive jump for AAA games. If you only play esports it'll be massively faster.

 

Most people shouldn't get a 5600x, they should get a 10850k or 5900x with a 3080-3090. But people who play less multithreaded intense games like esports a 5600x will be 100% perfect for that. 6 cores is entry level in 2021. Already some new games will be a worse experience with only 6 cores, going forward a higher % of games will be on that list. If you don't play new AAA games then more cores doesn't matter to you.

 

Most of the benchmarks are a majority of games from pre 2020, some 2020 games and rarely a single 2021 released game.

 

I'd never recommend Zen3 on a b450 board unless the person already owns a b450 like you do. It will work, but many people have experienced a whole bunch of weird bugs. Yours could work flawlessly though. Give it a try, but if your having a bunch of weird issues, get a 500 series board.

 

IMO because of the high chance of bugs with a b450 board, especially since you're already having issues, I'd probably sell the CPU/MB and get a 10850k to pair with a 3080. If you live near microcenter they are $319. Otherwise if you truly never play AAA games, the 5600x will be amazing at esports and lightly threaded games. Assuming the 5900x is out of reach in the budget, otherwise that wins at everything.

 

Before my Zen3 CPU arrived my 3090 was getting 60% usage in Cold War Nuketown with my Ryzen 3600 OC 4.2ghz hitting 90% causing microstutters. 6 cores with a top tier RTX 3000 GPU is no longer recommended in 2021 for most people(Remember I'm talking 3080-3090 owners here). Some people it still is perfect though, you might be one of them.

 

In some easy to run games that are locked at 144hz with both CPUs, they are noticeable smoother on the Zen3 chip compared to the 3600, no idea how that works. My brother even noticed walking by.

 

High FPS gaming requires something faster than Ryzen 3000. Zen3 will be instantly noticeably faster to you. Enjoy your beast of a PC. Cheers

[Middcore]

2 hours ago, Smarttech47 said:

No, 3600x to 5600x is not a good Idea. Only like 7 percent performance increase. 3700x is better. Yes, should work. 

 

3700x is better at what? Gaming? No, it's not. It will be basically identical to the 3600x in almost all games and behind the 5600x. 

[NoobDaddy]

46 minutes ago, CryingWimp said:

A 3600x will 100% be the bottleneck with a 3080. Anyone who has actually used a 3080-3090 will tell you it requires a beefy CPU to keep up.

 

Like others have said, a 3600x to 5600x wouldn't be a massive jump for AAA games. If you only play esports it'll be massively faster.

 

Most people shouldn't get a 5600x, they should get a 10850k or 5900x with a 3080-3090. But people who play less multithreaded intense games like esports a 5600x will be 100% perfect for that. 6 cores is entry level in 2021. Already some new games will be a worse experience with only 6 cores, going forward a higher % of games will be on that list. If you don't play new AAA games then more cores doesn't matter to you.

 

Most of the benchmarks are a majority of games from pre 2020, some 2020 games and rarely a single 2021 released game.

 

I'd never recommend Zen3 on a b450 board unless the person already owns a b450 like you do. It will work, but many people have experienced a whole bunch of weird bugs. Yours could work flawlessly though. Give it a try, but if your having a bunch of weird issues, get a 500 series board.

 

IMO because of the high chance of bugs with a b450 board, i'd probably sell the CPU/MB and get a 10850k to pair with a 3080. If you live near microcenter they are $319. Otherwise if you truly never play AAA games, the 5600x will be amazing at esports and lightly threaded games. Assuming the 5900x is out of reach in the budget, otherwise that wins at everything.

 

Before my Zen3 CPU arrived my 3090 was getting 60% usage in Cold War Nuketown with my Ryzen 3600 OC 4.2ghz hitting 90% causing microstutters. 6 cores with a top tier RTX 3000 GPU is no longer recommended in 2021 for most people(Remember I'm talking 3080-3090 owners here). Some people it still is perfect though, you might be one of them.

 

Even in games that are locked at 144hz are smoother on my Zen3 chip compared to the 3600, no idea how that works. My brother noticed walking by.

 

High FPS gaming requires something faster than Ryzen 3000. Zen3 will be instantly noticeably faster to you. Enjoy your beast of a PC. Cheers

it would seem i need a 5800x and a 550 mobo. kinda costs a lot though. thank you for the input CryingWimp

 

[CryingWimp]

On 6/19/2021 at 12:47 PM, NoobDaddy said:

it would seem i need a 5800x and a 550 mobo. kinda costs a lot though.

 

IMO the 10850k is cheaper, id choose that. The 5800x is priced so close to the 5900x its very hard not to recommend the 5900x once your already nearly spending $500. The 5800x would be very fast, but its very expensive price/value/performance compared to the 10850k/5900x. A personal preference thing, if the extra $ on a 5800x vs 10850k is worth it, they trade blows depending on the game. The i9 10850k on average is a teeny tiny bit faster, has 10 cores vs 8, and is cheaper, it's a win win win.

 

The 5900x will always resell for more than a 5800x, so its actually less than $100 difference. Right now the 3900x are selling for more than the $100 difference over the 3800x, so it actually has been cheaper to own the faster 3900x vs a 3800x. It is very likely the 5900x will cost $0 more than a 5800x over the next couple years. If it prevents an upgrade by even a month for every year you own it, its actually cheaper. They are priced way to close together.

 

The 5900x is very expensive though, but so is the 5800x. That's why the intel chips look so nice, or the 5600x relative to the price of a 5800x. The 5800x would objectively be a great gaming CPU compared to the 10850k, they are pretty equal and both faster than the 5600x. Only the 5900x/5950x are faster, in some games by a tiny amount. IMO you can't go wrong with either of the 5800x/10850k/5900x for a gaming PC, price/value will be the only noticeable difference outside of a benchmark.

 

Zen3 is very nice, but you pay a premium.