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My hard disk seems to be having issues.
So I did a error checking test using windows check disk, it pop up and saying that it has error.
I want to get that error fixed but in my experience when I trusted a fix from Microsoft, it wiped my flashdrive. What do I do?

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7 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

My hard disk seems to be having issues.
So I did a error checking test using windows check disk, it pop up and saying that it has error.
I want to get that error fixed but in my experience when I trusted a fix from Microsoft, it wiped my flashdrive. What do I do?

Back it up then try?
 

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
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What is the error you're getting?  Sector error or something else?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

What is the error you're getting?  Sector error or something else?

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
    Found corrupt basic file structure for "<0x13,0x64f8>"
was not able to send command for self-healing due to lack of memory.

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
Deleted corrupt attribute list entry
with type code 80 in file 64F8.
Unable to find child frs 0x9f40e with sequence number 0x9.
Deleted corrupt attribute list entry
with type code 80 in file 64F8.
Unable to find child frs 0x9f5c3 with sequence number 0xe.
Deleted corrupt attribute list entry
with type code 80 in file 64F8.
Unable to find child frs 0x8255c with sequence number 0x11.
"chkdsk /scan" is aborting due to self-healing command failure: 0xc0000102
"chkdsk /f" will be required to repair the volume.
 

 

2 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

Back it up then try?

with a system restore point?

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1 minute ago, InfraDelta said:

with a system restore point?

Backup to another harddrive (only the files you really need) then try and fix your current drive. If that then breaks you still have your files. 😉

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
I'm just helping YOU to help YOURSELF!
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2 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

with a system restore point?

A system restore point is not a backup. It (hopefully) allows you to roll back e.g. Windows updates, but that's about it. A proper backup requires a separate disk and copying your data onto it so you have two copies of everything.

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1 minute ago, InfraDelta said:

I dont have a big enough hard disk to back it up into.

Amazon, Newegg, Microcenter...

 

If your data is important, you should have a backup even with a perfectly fine disk.

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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Amazon, Newegg, Microcenter...

 

If your data is important, you should have a backup even with a perfectly fine disk.

Its expensive to get a drive.
I'm getting a big upgrade since I built this pc, hopefully, this month.
But atm I dont have an extra drive that I can dump my stuff into.

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1 minute ago, InfraDelta said:

Its expensive to get a drive.
I'm getting a big upgrade since I built this pc, hopefully, this month.
But atm I dont have an extra drive that I can dump my stuff into.

Im sorry to say, you're options are very limited in this case.
While still having a big risk. Errors like that can be an indication of the drive going to die. (does not have to be the case).

 

So whatever you have on there (your HDD), think really hard to how much that is worth to you...

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
I'm just helping YOU to help YOURSELF!
(The more info you give the easier it is for others to help you out!)

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Just now, InfraDelta said:

Its expensive to get a drive.
I'm getting a big upgrade since I built this pc, hopefully, this month.
But atm I dont have an extra drive that I can dump my stuff into.

How much data do you need to back up or safeguard?

 

You don't have too many choices.  Either leave the drive alone, attempt to fix without the data being backed up, or buy a drive and back it up.  Or rent space online with a cloud backup company.

 

Pick one.  Good luck.

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4 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

Its expensive to get a drive.
I'm getting a big upgrade since I built this pc, hopefully, this month.
But atm I dont have an extra drive that I can dump my stuff into.

You don't necessarily need to backup everything. Just the stuff that is irreplaceable. The OS and programs can always be reinstalled. But a backup is the only sane option if you want to make certain you don't lose your data.

 

An alternative (possibly cheaper) option might be to get a Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. account and synchronize your data onto it, depending on how much data you have.

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6 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

An alternative (possibly cheaper) option might be to get something like Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. account and synchronize your data onto it, depending on how much data you have.

Well, whats the biggest free online service I can get at the moment?

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

How much data do you need to back up or safeguard?

You don't have too many choices.  Either leave the drive alone, attempt to fix without the data being backed up, or buy a drive and back it up.  Or rent space online with a cloud backup company.

Pick one.  Good luck.

I have alot of files, around 600TB for the scattered files and if i want to back up the whole drive, maybe 1.5TB

8 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

Im sorry to say, you're options are very limited in this case.
While still having a big risk. Errors like that can be an indication of the drive going to die. (does not have to be the case).

 

So whatever you have on there (your HDD), think really hard to how much that is worth to you...

What do you mean drive is going to die?


Also, what tips can you guys give me so that in the future I would not have issues on my drives?
Like I am planning to get a 6TB minimum drive to back up everything from my PC and Laptop, before formatting them and reinstalling everything but making a 1TB nvme m.2 for OS and the others for storage.

 

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Nvm, my files that I consider important amounts to almost 1.5TB

I managed to cram it in one 1TB external I had and one of the disk scanned that didnt pop up with an error.

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You just back up your files regularly, you can't do anything to make a drive not have issues.   Except maybe not use it?

 

 

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13 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

I have alot of files, around 600TB for the scattered files and if i want to back up the whole drive, maybe 1.5TB

Depending on your internet's upload speed you'll be uploading for literal days on end if you want to store 1.5 TB on the cloud.

14 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

What do you mean drive is going to die?

Something goes belly up, the drive becomes inaccessible and all data on it is lost.

16 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

Also, what tips can you guys give me so that in the future I would not have issues on my drives?

You can't really prevent it to my knowledge. Drives just have a chance to go bad. The longer they're used to more that chance increases. To illustrate, drives typically have a mean-time-between-failure (MTBF) rating and SSDs have a terabytes-written (TBW) rating. At some point a drive will just reach the end. This is why backups are important.

 

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58 minutes ago, tikker said:

To illustrate, drives typically have a mean-time-between-failure (MTBF) rating and SSDs have a terabytes-written (TBW) rating. At some point a drive will just reach the end. This is why backups are important.

Well do you know how to get this MTBF and TBW? Because I really want to know. So that I guess I can back my things up before everything goes to shit.

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3 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

Well do you know how to get this MTBF and TBW? Because I really want to know. So that I guess I can back my things up before everything goes to shit.

It's on every drive manufacturers site, as part of the drives specs.  Amazon lists it as well.

 

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/870-evo-sata-2-5-ssd-1tb-mz-77e1t0b-am/?cid=us_paid_ppc_google_ssd_none_sem-ssd_text_870-evo_%2Bsamsung %2Bssd %2B860 %2Bevo&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_rKWs-qh8QIVx97ICh3EPgsNEAAYASAAEgKoKvD_BwE

 

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7 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

Well do you know how to get this MTBF and TBW? Because I really want to know. So that I guess I can back my things up before everything goes to shit.

Just go to the data sheet on the manufacturers website and it should be listed. That's still only an average measure though. Your drive can always fail earlier or later, so it's no excuse for not having a backup. It also doesn't mean you should start thinking about backing up once you approach those numbers, because they tend to be huge like a million hours (that is 100 years) a few dozen or even a few hundred TB which will also take you a good amount of time to do.

 

If it does fail earlier than that you may be able to claim warranty on it however, which you can do anyway if it fails within warranty..

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10 minutes ago, tikker said:

Just go to the data sheet on the manufacturers website and it should be listed. That's still only an average measure though. Your drive can always fail earlier or later, so it's no excuse for not having a backup. It also doesn't mean you should start thinking about backing up once you approach those numbers, because they tend to be huge like a million hours (that is 100 years) a few dozen or even a few hundred TB which will also take you a good amount of time to do.

 

If it does fail earlier than that you may be able to claim warranty on it however, which you can do anyway if it fails within warranty..

 

13 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

As you guys have said it is there but its unreliable as its just an estimate of average.
Does making my system be on RAID or what it is called can help me in this case?

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21 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

As you guys have said it is there but its unreliable as its just an estimate of average.

That's a bit jumping to conclusions. Yes it's an average value, no that does not immediately mean it's unreliable. It gives you an indication of the expected lifetime of the device and what kind of load it can endure. The chance for any one drive is small, but given that there are millions of drives out there even the odd ones out you will find.

21 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

Does making my system be on RAID or what it is called can help me in this case?

RAID is not a backup. The R in RAID stands for redundant, meaning that it's meant to be able to endure drive loss without the system going down. If that happens you'll need to replace the failed drive as soon as possible and if you use RAID 0 or lose more than one drive* you'll still lose all of the data. It's also simply a mirror in the sense that if you accidentally delete a file from a RAID array it's gone.

 

In other words, RAID aims to increase uptime and will allow you to continue running (at reduced capacity) should something fail. For important data you will still need a backup which is a separate copy of the data stored on a different unrelated drive and RAID is not a replacement for this. You wouild also need to buy more drives to do that anyway.

 

* You can have setups in which more failures can be tolerated like RAID 6 which can have two drives fail, but the same applies.

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1 minute ago, tikker said:

That's a bit jumping to conclusions. Yes it's an average value, no that does not immediately mean it's unreliable. It gives you an indication of the expected lifetime of the device and what kind of load it can endure. The chance for any one drive is small, but given that there are millions of drives out there even the odd ones out you will find.

RAID is not a backup. The R in RAID stands for redundant, meaning that it's meant to be able to endure drive loss without the system going down. If that happens you'll need to replace the failed drive as soon as possible and if you use RAID 0 or lose more than one drive* you'll still lose all of the data. It's also simply a mirror in the sense that if you accidentally delete a file from a RAID array it's gone.

 

In other words, RAID aims to increase uptime and will allow you to continue running (at reduced capacity) should something fail. For important data you will still need a backup which is a separate copy of the data stored on a different unrelated drive.

 

* You can have setups in which more failures can be tolerated like RAID 6 which can have two drives fail, but the same applies.

ah alright then.
guess imma get 2 high capacity drives then to back my stuff at least once a year, alternating between drives.

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1 minute ago, InfraDelta said:

ah alright then.
guess imma get 2 high capacity drives then to back my stuff at least once a year, alternating between drives.

If you want to get real paranoid you can buy a 3rd drive to store mission critical data offsite just in case your house burns down your backup as well 😛

 

Drive manufacturers often also provide their own software to check drive health, those might be able to tell you more, but if there is important data on it I would try to stress the drive as little as possible until you can get it copied over first.

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2 minutes ago, tikker said:

If you want to get real paranoid you can buy a 3rd drive to store mission critical data offsite just in case your house burns down your backup as well 😛

 

Drive manufacturers often also provide their own software to check drive health, those might be able to tell you more, but if there is important data on it I would try to stress the drive as little as possible until you can get it copied over first.

Well I used SeaTools and it did not say anything about errors on the Seagate drive that has the issue. Like I ran all the tests and got all green.

Yeah I considered getting a 3rd Drive but then again its gonna get expensive.

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14 minutes ago, InfraDelta said:

Well I used SeaTools and it did not say anything about errors on the Seagate drive that has the issue. Like I ran all the tests and got all green.

Yeah I considered getting a 3rd Drive but then again its gonna get expensive.

Yep it'll come down to what your data is worth to you. I'm fine backing up a couple 100 gigs, but I'm not going to spend tons of money currently to backup my 15 TB storage server, so that just has RAID to have some protection.

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