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I'm in need of a better Airflow Case! Any suggestions ?

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On 6/7/2021 at 6:50 AM, KarlLagerfeuer said:

Thx for the replie. Budget whise, it would be nice if its not like a 150/200 €/$ Case. Something thats not ugly as hell but provides good airflow, while holding  360 rad at top. I have two SSDs and one HDD.

 

Edit: That Said, i think my 280 Arctic is enough for my CPU and it would be enough to put that on top, so My 3090 can get the pure fresh air from the front Fans. Therefore i need a case where i can fit my 280 Rad from Artic (its a biggy) on top without killing my Ram XD.

So Its more Important to me that the GPU ist getting enough fresh Air! Thats my main goal, get the Temps down on the GPU without Watercooling it.

Corair 4000d airflow would do well if you're sticking to the 280mm. 5000d if you think you might go 360mm later.

As far as the rest, top mount or front mount doesn't change a whole lot. Just make sure part of the rad is above the pump. If you go front mount, tilt it towards the back for a little bit so that the air can go to the rad. Hoses would go into the bottom of the rad in either case. You could also set the rad on top of the case, mount the pump and then mount the rad so it stays at the high spot. 

 

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1 minute ago, Ravendarat said:

Yep, just OP said specifically he wanted 360 at the top

maybe he doesn't know its worse tho 

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37 minutes ago, NorKris said:

 

 

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Leaks at the rad would have no chance of killing ur system.
next best is tubes at the top of the rad

best is intake and exhaust out side with out dumping heat in to the mb or gpu

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

best is intake and exhaust out side with out dumping heat in to the mb or gpu

 

 

 

oh well, not every1 can do 10000$ on "outdated" fans 😄 and a moonstertowerofdoom

hows the monsterofdoom going btw?

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5 minutes ago, NorKris said:

oh well, not every1 can do 10000$ on "outdated" fans 😄 and a moonstertowerofdoom

hows the monsterofdoom going btw?

tru but its the best...

 

ya its been sitting in my living room for like 3 years... i want aqaucomputer next vision pumps res and cpu block but i dont want to spend like $1000 more...but ill probably end up doing it for the sake of moving on... the other d5 pumps can be use in other pcs so wont be too much of a wast.

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3 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

tru but its the best...

 

ya its been sitting in my living room for like 3 years... i want aqaucomputer next vision pumps res and cpu block but i dont want to spend like $1000 more...but ill probably end up doing it for the sake of moving on... the other d5 pumps can be use in other pcs so wont be too much of a wast.

3years.. HOLY

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3 minutes ago, NorKris said:

3years.. HOLY

ya i got many other projects in the works...is my problem and im laze

 

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2 hours ago, NorKris said:

 

 

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Leaks at the rad would have no chance of killing ur system.
next best is tubes at the top of the rad

if you want to get air bubbles in the lines sure its the best way. but with the tubes on top, air would rise to the highest point which would be away from the CPU and the space would be filled with more water. plus ravendarat just said it again. OP is looking for a case that can support a 360mm rad on TOP for their CPU.

 

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front rad will make the gpu and mb hotter but cpu cooler well an top mounted rad will make the mb and gpu cooler but cpu not as cool.

 

now too aio gpu and cpu one will dump hot air in to the case making the mb, gpu, cpu, and vrms hotter well one sucks the hot air thoe making that one not as cool.

 

now if you intake from the front and out the bottom and top then both will be cooler.

 

just because an gpu and cpu have an aio on dose not mean it cant benefit form a fan across it like the artic aio vrms, pcb still benefit.

 

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3 minutes ago, thrasher_565 said:

front rad will make the gpu and mb hotter but cpu cooler well an top mounted rad will make the mb and gpu cooler but cpu not as cool.

 

now too aio gpu and cpu one will dump hot air in to the case making the mb, gpu, cpu, and vrms hotter well one sucks the hot air thoe making that one not as cool.

 

now if you intake from the front and out the bottom and top then both will be cooler.

 

just because an gpu and cpu have an aio on dose not mean it cant benefit form a fan across it like the artic aio vrms, pcb still benefit.

Ye well the test shows GPU increasing from 0-c depending on the load and so on. Not very much

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On 6/7/2021 at 6:50 AM, KarlLagerfeuer said:

Thx for the replie. Budget whise, it would be nice if its not like a 150/200 €/$ Case. Something thats not ugly as hell but provides good airflow, while holding  360 rad at top. I have two SSDs and one HDD.

 

Edit: That Said, i think my 280 Arctic is enough for my CPU and it would be enough to put that on top, so My 3090 can get the pure fresh air from the front Fans. Therefore i need a case where i can fit my 280 Rad from Artic (its a biggy) on top without killing my Ram XD.

So Its more Important to me that the GPU ist getting enough fresh Air! Thats my main goal, get the Temps down on the GPU without Watercooling it.

Corair 4000d airflow would do well if you're sticking to the 280mm. 5000d if you think you might go 360mm later.

As far as the rest, top mount or front mount doesn't change a whole lot. Just make sure part of the rad is above the pump. If you go front mount, tilt it towards the back for a little bit so that the air can go to the rad. Hoses would go into the bottom of the rad in either case. You could also set the rad on top of the case, mount the pump and then mount the rad so it stays at the high spot. 

 

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On 6/10/2021 at 1:31 AM, tdkid said:

i can see that. did you at least learn something before you were removed?

yes i did! one of the guys did test the front radiator stuff, 

he said CPU temp did go down 1c more than GPU did go up, but he did remove a front fan to place the rad there, so that would explain the GPU go up 

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4 hours ago, NorKris said:

yes i did! one of the guys did test the front radiator stuff, 

he said CPU temp did go down 1c more than GPU did go up, but he did remove a front fan to place the rad there, so that would explain the GPU go up 

good. the main point of putting the AIO on top is to make sure the pump doesnt run dry making you have to RMA it sooner than what most would. 

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10 minutes ago, tdkid said:

good. the main point of putting the AIO on top is to make sure the pump doesnt run dry making you have to RMA it sooner than what most would. 

well as gamers nexus said in that video, as long as parts of the radiator is above the pump ur fine 

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2 hours ago, NorKris said:

well as gamers nexus said in that video, as long as parts of the radiator is above the pump ur fine 

yes but he also said that these AIOs do leak no matter what. 

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55 minutes ago, tdkid said:

yes but he also said that these AIOs do leak no matter what. 

did not see that. but yes i agree, aios can leak no matter what 

one more reason to have 2 of the leaking points over nothing ✌️

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it was in one of the videos i linked. and is why you put the ports towards the front of the case.

 

it wasnt called leaking, it was called something that basically means that the liquid inside evaporates so you have to replace them like once every 5 years.

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10 minutes ago, tdkid said:

it was called something that basically means that the liquid inside evaporates

Permeation.

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1 minute ago, tdkid said:

it was in one of the videos i linked. and is why you put the ports towards the front of the case.

ye, im glad too see this trend going in pc builder industry now after gamers nexus and jayz made their video's with ppl now placing rads in front with tubes down. 

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On 6/9/2021 at 12:15 PM, tdkid said:

There is this little thing called pressure that fans are rated on (CFM).

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The unit of measure for static pressure is often inches of water (in. water). The static pressure of one inch of water is the suction needed to draw water up a straw one inch. For comparison, 1 pound per square inch static pressure (1 psi) is equal to 27.7 in. water static pressure. Sometimes static pressure is given as Pascals (Pa). The static pressure of 0.1 inches of water (in. water) is equal to about 25 Pascals (Pa).

https://www.asi.k-state.edu/doc/dairy/fans-airflow-vs-static-pressure.pdf

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4 minutes ago, wONKEyeYEs said:

Permeation.

that was it. it was just escaping me for the minute. 

 

but please tell me why we are measuring computer case fans with a water measurment? 

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3 hours ago, tdkid said:

good. the main point of putting the AIO on top is to make sure the pump doesnt run dry making you have to RMA it sooner than what most would. 

that not why...an sealed aio can be in any oration only have to worry about that with a custom loops.

so top mount or front mount as long as the rad go higher then the pump/cpu block you good.

but if you cant place the aio like that then you do what you can do. not all case can alow for the rad to be above the pump/cpu block. doing it like this MIGHT reduce its life span "MIGHT"🙃

 

so in custom loops you want an res or t line hooked to the pump feeding it. and you dont want the cpu/gpu block to be the highest point as air bubbles can get trapped reducing its profromace.

 

yes im aware of aios that you can open up and add coolant or more blocks but for sealed aios its different.

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5 minutes ago, tdkid said:

that was it. it was just escaping me for the minute. 

 

but please tell me why we are measuring computer case fans with a water measurment? 

It's a good comparative and quantifiable test.

Basically you hook a tube up to a fan with a 1" dia column of water in line and turn on the fan and observe how far water moves up the tube by the air pressure.

The fan and water never actually touch.

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16 minutes ago, wONKEyeYEs said:

It's a good comparative and quantifiable test.

Basically you hook a tube up to a fan with a 1" dia column of water in line and turn on the fan and observe how far water moves up the tube by the air pressure.

The fan and water never actually touch.

i think skinne labs use to test that way buy sadly that disaperd...and i dont remember gn ever testing fans with water.

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Hey Guy. hahahah thanks for all your participation in this Discussion and Sorry for my absense 😁 Never thought this Topic would kick of as it had here 😂 hahahah

So basically i just wanted some Suggestions for a nice Case where i can put a 360/280 Rad in the TOP so i can have the freshest Air for my RTX 3090, wich as its now installed  in my to tiny Case (be quiet! Pure Base 500DXDXDXD whatever), suffers a bit under the slightly warmer Air coming through the Rad of my CPU, that I have installed in Front.

Besides that i saw alle Videos in the Toic of placing the Tubes on a Rad myself back as they where new 🤓 (all of them, from Linus over Nexus to Jay 😆)

Thats why my current Rad is installed how it is. 😄 (and because its a THICC BOII, thx ARCTIC) 😁

Agian Thanks alot for all of this, but i think now this Thread can rest in Peace! hahaha (when i figured out how to close a Thread) 😄 See ya all!

 

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threads usually dont close unless a mod closes them for something such as violating the rules. after a time they will get a warning on them like ":this threaf is old, maybe you should start a new one".

 

with what i have seen the best person to pay attention to on airflow cases is steve from gamers nexus as they are very biased towards cases with good airflow and will call out any case or company that says their case does but really doesnt. at the current time i would avoid anything NZXT because they are having an issue with their PCIe riser cables causing fires inside people's cases.

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