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PC Vastly underperforming, done everything I can think of, still runs terribly.

My Specs are as follows.
  • RTX 2080TI (No overclock - Have tried and doesnt do anything)
  • Ryzen 2700x (no overclock - Have tried and doesnt do anything)
  • 16GB DDR4 @ 3200mhz
  • Games installed on a NVME SSD
  • Playing in 1080p @ 144hz
So, I always have FPS issues with literally every game I play. Ive had this PC for about a year and NEVER found the cause, nor do I know what else to do as ive done seemingly everything.
Below are a list of games and their average FPS.
 
Biggest example: - I have been playing Days Gone, with my spec people have been getting frames with an average of 140fps, @ 1080p max settings. With Dips to no less than 100. Im getting an average of 70fps with dips into the low 50's all the time, lowest ive seen is 49fps thus far. Its not like its a stutter to that frame, its @ 49fps until I move away from that area, then when I come back the frames tank again, even then, the highest ive ever seen it go it 90, and thats in the middle of nowhere with nothing on screen. Even with everything happening benchmarks show specs like mine never dropping to 49, hell not even dropping below 100. This should NOT be happening with a PC like this, below are more examples. Ive done everything I can, please help.
 
Below are more examples of my terrible frames. Its been this way for the 2 years ive had it and NEVER been able to fix it;
 
  • Call of Duty: Warzone - Average of 60fps with frequent dips to 52 fps @ 1080p (changing settings from highest to lowest settings does literally nothing).
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops, Cold War - Average of 60fps with frequent dips to 55 fps @ 1080p (changing settings from highest to lowest settings does very little)
  • Cyberpunk 2077 - Average of 40fps without raytracing, average of 30 with raytracing @ 1080p (Changing from highest to lowest settings only gives me about 10 more fps).
  • Horizon: Zero Dawn - Average of 55fps @ 1080p, changing from highest to lowest settings nets me about 20fps giving me an average of 75fps but still dips below 60 in some areas).
  • DayZ: Standalone - Average of 50fps @ 1080p, changing settings doesnt do anything.
  • World of Warcraft - Average of 52fps @ 1080p (Changing from highest settings to the lowest settigns nets a huge performance gain, this is the only game that has this effect. Ill sit at about 100fps with everything as low as it can go)
  • Valorant - Average of 120fps @ 1080p (Changing from highest to lowest settings changed the average to about 140fps, also @ 1080p)
  • Escape from Tarkov - Average of 50fps @ 1080p with drops to 45fps fairly often (Changing settings does practically nothing)
These are just a FEW examples, this is a trend with literally every single game I play , Performance is abhorrent, with a PC like this I should easily pass the 60fps mark and given what ive seen on Youtube with the same build, should easily pass 100fps in most games even at their highest settings.
Ive reinstalled windows a slough of times over the past year, run plenty of benchmarks that all came back perfectly fine, done plenty of clean driver installs using DDU, used old drivers new ones etc. Ive installed new and old chipset drivers for my motherboard and CPU, tried to overclock, underclock I have tried literally everything. Temps come back perfectly fine in every test and even while playing.
All of the above done in an effort to fix the performance, also, I have switched the Ram and GPU with replacements to see if it fixes it and no, it doesnt.
For those who are going to tell me that I need to play @ 1440p - I understand but dont. Various Youtube benchmarks, Youtubers with similar builds or even ones that are worse etc all play at 1080p and get much better frames than I do. Not only that but I should still easily be passing 60fps on mostly every game that I play, regardless of me being on 1080p or not.
If anyone has ANY clue on what to do, please let me know I am desperate to get this shit fixed.
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2 minutes ago, 0hkie said:
  • 16GB DDR4 @ 3200mhz
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Is this single channel

NOT A PROFESSIONAL, just a tech nerd. I am a human and can be incorrect. dont forget to quote me and put full specs in troubleshooting posts

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AMD Ryzen 5 1400 CPU - $85, Deepcool Gammaxx 400 V2 Blue CPU Cooler - $25, Biostar B450MH AM4 Motherboard - $65, Timetec 16GB (2x8) 3200MHz CL16 DDR4 RAM - $60, Adata SU650 240GB M.2 SSD - $30, WD Caviar Blue 250GB 7200RPM HDD - $20, Seagate Barracuda  320GB 7200RPM HDD - $20, MSI Aero Nvidia GTX 1060 3GB GPU - $200, Cougar MG130G Micro-ATX Case - $50, Aresgame AGK750 Fully Modular 80+ Gold PSU - $90, HP 22EB 21.5" 1080P 60Hz Monitor - $100, Samsung 21.5" 2S22E450D 1080P 60Hz Monitor - $90, Sceptre E205-W 19.5" 1600-3R 900P 75Hz Monitor - $70, GK73X Hot-Swappable Mechanical Keyboard (Gateron Red Switches) - $70, HK Gaming Dye Sub Chalk Keycaps - $40, Steelseries Rival 3 Mouse - $30, Aresgame RGB Mouse Pad - Came with bundle, Random XXL Amazon Mouse Pad - $10, Widesen USB Condenser Mic - $20, Gertisan Mic Arm - $12 (adapter needed, + $4), OneOdio Over Ear Headphones - $33, Cooler Master SickleFlow 120MM Blue Fan - $10, Iceberg Thermal IceGALE 140MM Teal Fan 2 Pack - $45, Cougar 120MM Case Fan - Included with MG 130G

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Intel Core i5-2400 CPU - $25, Enermax ETS-N31 CPU Cooler - $25, Dell Optiplex 390 LGA 1155 Motherboard - $15, 8GB (2x4) Hynix 1600MHz CL11 DDR3 RAM - $30, Leven 120GB 2.5" SSD - $22, Intel HD 2000 Graphics - Integrated into CPU, Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 600W Non-Modular 80+ PSU - $50, HP Office Keyboard - $5, Havit Mouse - $10

 "I had the parts lying around" PC

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AMD A8-4555M CPU, "Stock" Cooler, Coinmine ITX Motherboard - ($Total of 3=$35), 8GB (2x4) Hynix 1333MHz CLsomething DDR3 SODIMM RAM - $22, HP 120GB 2.5" SSD - $203, AMD Radeon 7600G Graphics - Integrated into CPU, EVGA N1 400W Non-Modular PSU - $40, InWin 303 (Yes, I know its a ridiculously expensive and high end case for this type of build. I got one for free and had it lying around.) - $90, Thermaltake Riing 120MM Blue Fan (x3) - $17 Each, Cooler Master 120MM Case Fan - $10, Redragon S107 Keyboard + Mouse + Mouse Pad - $37

Other parts I have lying around

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3 Dell Optiplex Stock Coolers (1 broken), Cooler Master T2 Cooler, Intel Stock Cooler, Replace Power 420W PSU, Broken FX-8350, Broken Asrock 970 Motherboard, 2x4GB DDR3 RAM 1333MHz, a Dell Office KB, a bunch of office mice

Dell Inspiron 15-3575 Laptop

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Intel Celeron N4000 CPU, 4GB RAM, Windows 10 Home Activated 64 Bit, 500GB HDD, Intel UHD 600 Graphics

Gateway Vintage Laptop from 2006 probably

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Intel Core 2 Duo T5500, 3GB RAM, Windows Vista Home Premium Activated 32 Bit, 250GB HDD, Intel 965 Graphics

 

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Do you have XMP enabled and memory installed in the correct slots for dual channel?

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2 minutes ago, davemc said:

Is this single channel

No, this is dual channel

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1 minute ago, Grabhanem said:

Do you have XMP enabled and memory installed in the correct slots for dual channel?

Yes, its running in dual channel and XMP is enabled. I have tried enabled and disabling, makes practically no difference.

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Just now, 0hkie said:

Yes, its running in dual channel and XMP is enabled. I have tried enabled and disabling, makes practically no difference.

Have you confirmed this with the CPU-Z memory tab?

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Temps, both CPU and GPU. 

 

I'm thinking throttling.

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When was the last time you completely wiped your drive and did a clean windows install?

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Just now, MadGoatHaz said:

Temps, both CPU and GPU. 

 

I'm thinking throttling.

No throttling at all, Core clocks on both the GPU and CPU stay where they are meant to be, I have an AIO on the CPU also, temps never go above 70c, GPU temp sits at 65-70c also.

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2 minutes ago, Grabhanem said:

Have you confirmed this with the CPU-Z memory tab?

Yes, I have. Heres a screenshot too

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3 minutes ago, tkitch said:

When was the last time you completely wiped your drive and did a clean windows install?

Ive done it several times to see if it fixes it, last time was about a week ago. It never helps.

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What motherboard? What pcie slot so you have the GPU in? 

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post the GPU-Z of your GPU?

 

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1 minute ago, MadGoatHaz said:

What motherboard? What pcie slot so you have the GPU in? 

Motherboard is a B450-F Gaming, GPU is slotted in the top slot (closest to the CPU)

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3 minutes ago, tkitch said:

post the GPU-Z of your GPU?

 

Here ya go.

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Your slot is running at 8x.

 

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You'll have to do some BIOS hunting to figure out why.

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1 minute ago, tkitch said:

Your slot is running at 8x.

 

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You'll have to do some BIOS hunting to figure out why.

I just saw that as well. This could be the issue... 8x @ 3.0 is still pretty fast though, SLIed cards run at 8x for instance and are "fine". But, OP, have you done a BIOS update..? Good ol AMD can always benefit from a BIOS update. 

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214619006_b450-fM.2Config.PNG.400f8dd208b836db02833b65d0012dbd.PNG

 

Looks like your NVME is dumping your PCI-e lanes to 8x. This could contribute to your problem.

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6 minutes ago, MadGoatHaz said:

214619006_b450-fM.2Config.PNG.400f8dd208b836db02833b65d0012dbd.PNG

 

Looks like your NVME is dumping your PCI-e lanes to 8x. This could contribute to your problem.

Hm, ive looked around in the bios, no setting to change it or anything. No other PCIE slots are in use either.

And upon googling it being in X8 doesnt have much, if any effect on performance. According to google that is.

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10 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I just saw that as well. This could be the issue... 8x @ 3.0 is still pretty fast though, SLIed cards run at 8x for instance and are "fine". But, OP, have you done a BIOS update..? Good ol AMD can always benefit from a BIOS update. 

Its been this way for 2 years, Bios updates have never fixed the issue so im unsure what to do at this point.

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--Added, looks as though you have your NVME in the bottom m.2_2 slot, this will reduce your PCI-e_x16_1 slot to 8x.

 

Move your NVME to the top slot, this might clear up your problems

 

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1 minute ago, 0hkie said:

Its been this way for 2 years, Bios updates have never fixed the issue so im unsure what to do at this point.

Its been what way for 2 years? If there is an updated BIOS, update it... Maybe something was finally fixed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

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1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Its been what way for 2 years? If there is an updated BIOS, update it... Maybe something was finally fixed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

As in, ive updated it throughout the years. Im on their 28/01/2021 bios version right now.

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5 minutes ago, MadGoatHaz said:

--Added, looks as though you have your NVME in the bottom m.2_2 slot, this will reduce your PCI-e_x16_1 slot to 8x.

 

Move your NVME to the top slot, this might clear up your problems

 

Ooooh I see. If this adds to anything, the SSD was a very recent addition, only had it a few weeks. 

Ive been having these very bad underperforming issues since ive had the pc, which was 2 years ago.

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Also make sure you have your memory in the right slots, you want to use A2 and B2:

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And furthermore make sure XMP (DOCP) is enabled. 

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