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7 minutes ago, Diddlydennis said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373583496369

 

What would be a good offer price?

Pretty bad deal, I don't know why you'd want a 3800xt 1650 build in the first place. I wouldn't cough up more than meh, 700 for it, being generous. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

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To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

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7 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Pretty bad deal, I don't know why you'd want a 3800xt 1650 build in the first place. I wouldn't cough up more than meh, 700 for it, being generous. 

Looking for a new desktop. Is it that bad I thought the 3800xt was a good CPU.

 

Obviously want a better GPU for rendering but everything is bananas

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Just now, Diddlydennis said:

Looking for a new desktop. Is it that bad I thought the 3800xt was a good CPU.

 

Obviously want a better GPU for rendering but everything is bananas

The 3800xt isn't bad per se, it's just pretty bad value.

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

Motherboard Tier List                   How many watts do I need?
Best B550 Motherboards             Best Intel Z490 Motherboards

PC Troubleshooting                      You don't need a big PSU

PSU Tier List                                Common pc building mistakes 
PC BUILD Guide! (POV)              How to Overclock your CPU 

 

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Just now, Brok3n But who cares? said:

The 3800xt isn't bad per se, it's just pretty bad value.

Mate im not knowledgeable on these things can you explain why.

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Just now, Diddlydennis said:

Mate im not knowledgeable on these things can you explain why.

Performs extremely similarly to a 3700x, It's basically a binned version with its clocks raised slightly. You pay a lot of money for essentially nothing. Even right now the 3700x isn't a great value as there's cheaper chips out there that may outperform it in certain workloads, such as the  i5-11400f that goes for $170 in most gaming and single-threaded workloads.

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

Motherboard Tier List                   How many watts do I need?
Best B550 Motherboards             Best Intel Z490 Motherboards

PC Troubleshooting                      You don't need a big PSU

PSU Tier List                                Common pc building mistakes 
PC BUILD Guide! (POV)              How to Overclock your CPU 

 

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2 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Performs extremely similarly to a 3700x, It's basically a binned version with its clocks raised slightly. You pay a lot of money for essentially nothing. Even right now the 3700x isn't a great value as there's cheaper chips out there that may outperform it in certain workloads, such as the  i5-11400f that goes for $170 in most gaming and single-threaded workloads.

Ah that explains that but in thought it was equivalent to an i7 not I5

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2 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Performs extremely similarly to a 3700x, It's basically a binned version with its clocks raised slightly. You pay a lot of money for essentially nothing. Even right now the 3700x isn't a great value as there's cheaper chips out there that may outperform it in certain workloads, such as the  i5-11400f that goes for $170 in most gaming and single-threaded workloads.

What about in multi-threaded workloads?

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2 minutes ago, OnlyOneJame said:

What about in multi-threaded workloads?

This in 3d modelling it be better but anyone else chime in

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Just now, OnlyOneJame said:

What about in multi-threaded workloads?

I mean should he pretty obvious. The 3800xt should usually outperform a 11400 with its 2c/4t advantage. More cores, technically higher clocks, similar-ish IPC, yeah.

It's Case-dependant however, sometimes the 11400 might be able to squeeze out a win.

Just now, Diddlydennis said:

Ah that explains that but in thought it was equivalent to an i7 not I5

uhhh well that's not quite how it works. I... I don't exactly know how to explain it to you. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

Motherboard Tier List                   How many watts do I need?
Best B550 Motherboards             Best Intel Z490 Motherboards

PC Troubleshooting                      You don't need a big PSU

PSU Tier List                                Common pc building mistakes 
PC BUILD Guide! (POV)              How to Overclock your CPU 

 

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1 minute ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

I mean should he pretty obvious. The 3800xt should usually outperform a 11400 with its 2c/4t advantage. More cores, technically higher clocks, similar-ish IPC, yeah.

It's Case-dependant however, sometimes the 11400 might be able to squeeze out a win.

uhhh well that's not quite how it works. I... I don't exactly know how to explain it to you. 

I meant, is there a similar 8 core/16thread processor that is a better bang for the buck than the 3700x?

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2 minutes ago, OnlyOneJame said:

I meant, is there a similar 8 core/16thread processor that is a better bang for the buck than the 3700x?

Excluding extremely old 8 cores you can buy for under $30, uhh yeah, the 10700f. Regularly goes for under $260 while the 3700x hasn't dipped below $300 in a while. What processor has the best performance will depend, but for $40 less both of these chips trade blows. I suppose you can argue the 3700x might go on a sale, however you can make the same case for the 10700f. 

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
Spoiler

To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

Motherboard Tier List                   How many watts do I need?
Best B550 Motherboards             Best Intel Z490 Motherboards

PC Troubleshooting                      You don't need a big PSU

PSU Tier List                                Common pc building mistakes 
PC BUILD Guide! (POV)              How to Overclock your CPU 

 

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A 1650 with a 3800XT is a pretty stupid combo. Not sure why you would put a CPU that is worth $380 with a GPU that was worth 120ish. 
 

You would get identical performance with a R5 3600 with a 1650.

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