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Ryzen 7 5800x w/RTX 3060 Ti Or RX 6700 Xt?

I have been doing a lot more research and based on what everyone's saying from my previous posts, the Ryzen 7 5800x cpu will provide enough for me and more, rather than going over, overkill with a 5900x. I've also done some research on 2 combos- Ryzen 7 5800x w/3060Ti or Ryzen 7 5800x w/Radeon RX 6700 Xt. Which GPU should I get to go with my CPU? Thank you!

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If you are judging by MSRP pricing the 3060 ti is a way better value

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AMD Ryzen 5 1400 CPU - $85, Deepcool Gammaxx 400 V2 Blue CPU Cooler - $25, Biostar B450MH AM4 Motherboard - $65, Timetec 16GB (2x8) 3200MHz CL16 DDR4 RAM - $60, Adata SU650 240GB M.2 SSD - $30, WD Caviar Blue 250GB 7200RPM HDD - $20, Seagate Barracuda  320GB 7200RPM HDD - $20, MSI Aero Nvidia GTX 1060 3GB GPU - $200, Cougar MG130G Micro-ATX Case - $50, Aresgame AGK750 Fully Modular 80+ Gold PSU - $90, HP 22EB 21.5" 1080P 60Hz Monitor - $100, Samsung 21.5" 2S22E450D 1080P 60Hz Monitor - $90, Sceptre E205-W 19.5" 1600-3R 900P 75Hz Monitor - $70, GK73X Hot-Swappable Mechanical Keyboard (Gateron Red Switches) - $70, HK Gaming Dye Sub Chalk Keycaps - $40, Steelseries Rival 3 Mouse - $30, Aresgame RGB Mouse Pad - Came with bundle, Random XXL Amazon Mouse Pad - $10, Widesen USB Condenser Mic - $20, Gertisan Mic Arm - $12 (adapter needed, + $4), OneOdio Over Ear Headphones - $33, Cooler Master SickleFlow 120MM Blue Fan - $10, Iceberg Thermal IceGALE 140MM Teal Fan 2 Pack - $45, Cougar 120MM Case Fan - Included with MG 130G

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3 minutes ago, davemc said:

If you are judging by MSRP pricing the 3060 ti is a way better value

I'm going to get a pre built, though I wanted to build my own, I'm not patient person lol. 

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12 minutes ago, Percival2644 said:

I'm going to get a pre built, though I wanted to build my own, I'm not patient person lol. 

I read the other thread you posted, I would still consider the 5900x if I were you, the 5800x really is priced kind of bad compared to its value. You get 4 more cores for a hundred bucks with the 5900x. That sounds fantastic if you are thinking of using the system for a long time. I would personally go with that. Then again, money is money.

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21 minutes ago, Stockholmes said:

I read the other thread you posted, I would still consider the 5900x if I were you, the 5800x really is priced kind of bad compared to its value. You get 4 more cores for a hundred bucks with the 5900x. That sounds fantastic if you are thinking of using the system for a long time. I would personally go with that. Then again, money is money.

I’m not to sure, as even if I do get the 5900x, just seems a bit too over kill. Also,  another cpu might release in the next few years, that out beats it, etc. Even if it’s 4 cores less, it still is great for gaming. Also, what gpu would you recommend for both 5900x and 5800x, maybe one of the ones I listed above? 

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8 minutes ago, Percival2644 said:

I’m not to sure, as even if I do get the 5900x, just seems a bit too over kill. Also,  another cpu might release in the next few years, that out beats it, etc. Even if it’s 4 cores less, it still is great for gaming. Also, what gpu would you recommend for both 5900x and 5800x, maybe one of the ones I listed above? 

Yeah, it is kind of overkill for games right now. That's true. But it might not be in 5 years time, if it was still your intention to future-proof the machine you're building, and only change the GPU in the middle. Then again, trying to "future-proof" any machine is a fools errand in the sense that nobody knows what leaps and bounds might happen in the future. I don't think the 5800x is a bad choice as far as performance itself goes, just that it's price / performance ratio leaves a lot to be desired.

 

For the GPU's, what resolution monitor are you using? Both of those you listed would work well with 1080p, I guess with 1440p too. The nvidia one has more features as you might know.

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1 hour ago, Stockholmes said:

Yeah, it is kind of overkill for games right now. That's true. But it might not be in 5 years time, if it was still your intention to future-proof the machine you're building, and only change the GPU in the middle. Then again, trying to "future-proof" any machine is a fools errand in the sense that nobody knows what leaps and bounds might happen in the future. I don't think the 5800x is a bad choice as far as performance itself goes, just that it's price / performance ratio leaves a lot to be desired.

 

For the GPU's, what resolution monitor are you using? Both of those you listed would work well with 1080p, I guess with 1440p too. The nvidia one has more features as you might know.

Yes I shall think about that more for the cpu, thanks! I’m using a 1080p at 144hrz monitor, and based on previous research, the rtx 3060 ti is a great gpu for the time being.

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1 hour ago, Percival2644 said:

Yes I shall think about that more for the cpu, thanks! I’m using a 1080p at 144hrz monitor, and based on previous research, the rtx 3060 ti is a great gpu for the time being.

Then that GPU sounds fantastic! 🙂 

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There is an argument to be made for the 5800x.

 

1. The 5800x is still cheaper than the 5900x in absolute terms, meaning more money for other components. If you want value go for the 5600x.

2. 8 cores is what developers will be targetting for gaming because of the consoles. 12 is overkill for gaming, even for future proofing.

3. All 8 cores are located on the same CCX, using the same cache. Currently the 5900x is fine because you don't really need more than 6 cores for games, but using 8 will introduce latency between chiplets/cache.

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8 hours ago, JohnRogers said:

There is an argument to be made for the 5800x.

 

1. The 5800x is still cheaper than the 5900x in absolute terms, meaning more money for other components. If you want value go for the 5600x.

2. 8 cores is what developers will be targetting for gaming because of the consoles. 12 is overkill for gaming, even for future proofing.

3. All 8 cores are located on the same CCX, using the same cache. Currently the 5900x is fine because you don't really need more than 6 cores for games, but using 8 will introduce latency between chiplets/cache.

I see. So I should go with the 5800x for now as it is perfect for gaming with the new standard 8 cores, etc. correct? Also what GPU recommendation for it? I’m planning for it to go with the RTX 3060 Ti

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Can't go wrong with either the 3060 Ti or the 6700xt, they are very close. The 3060 Ti would be nice if you want to try out ray tracing at some point. As for DLSS vs Image Sharpening it is hard to tell which will end up being better, but nVidia has a big head start. The extra VRAM on the 6700xt is only really useful for high resolution (4K) gaming in situations where it is not really powerful enough anyway.

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44 minutes ago, JohnRogers said:

Can't go wrong with either the 3060 Ti or the 6700xt, they are very close. The 3060 Ti would be nice if you want to try out ray tracing at some point. As for DLSS vs Image Sharpening it is hard to tell which will end up being better, but nVidia has a big head start. The extra VRAM on the 6700xt is only really useful for high resolution (4K) gaming in situations where it is not really powerful enough anyway.

I agree. Both are great cards. I would tend to lean more towards nvidia if you are going to be streaming or recording. The nvenc encoder is great and amd doesn't have anything like it that I am aware of. 

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