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Hello. Well I bought an X79 (X79A to be precise) and I expected it to have an UEFI interface. (keyboard, mouse and fancy GUI design) I use this computer almost every day and this question is pissing me off.

 

Any ideas why didn't this motherboard go for an UEFI Setup Utility and if possible, how to upgrade the BIOS to a newer setup utility?

 

PD: motherboard is called Kllisre X79A-V5.0 U3.0 and found no BIOS updates online.

BTW whenever I restart my computer, when it turns on again, it just blackscreens forever and never posts.

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Probably as good as you're going to get with a brand like that. Did you look at boards from reputable manufacturers beforehand? 

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8 minutes ago, joveaaron said:

Any ideas why didn't this motherboard go for an UEFI Setup Utility and if possible, how to upgrade the BIOS to a newer setup utility?

I'm pretty sure it is UEFI, just skinned to look like BIOS. My 2020 laptop UEFI looks just like that.

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6 minutes ago, joveaaron said:

Hello. Well I bought an X79 (X79A to be precise) and I expected it to have an UEFI interface. (keyboard, mouse and fancy GUI design) I use this computer almost every day and this question is pissing me off.

 

Any ideas why didn't this motherboard go for an UEFI Setup Utility and if possible, how to upgrade the BIOS to a newer setup utility?

 

PD: motherboard is called Kllisre X79A-V5.0 U3.0 and found no BIOS updates online.

BTW whenever I restart my computer, when it turns on again, it just blackscreens forever and never posts.

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It's not unusual to have an old style BIOS gui, especially on cheaper motherboards and with pre builts, my Acer is UEFI but with old style BIOS gui like the one you show. your only options are, 1.motherboard manufacturer update, 2.system integrator update, 3.third party modified BIOS, 4. Do it yourself.

I would say all four options are very unlikely at this point, and going with a third party could brick the board or just be really unstable.

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This is a UEFI, it's just boring.  This looks like plenty of server board UEFIs.  There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not 'fancy looking'.  You bought an off brand Chines X79 board and your UEFI interface is dull.  It's how it works. 😛

 

53 minutes ago, joveaaron said:

BTW whenever I restart my computer, when it turns on again, it just blackscreens forever and never posts.

So, if I understand correctly, it boots normal from off, but doesn't boot normally from reboot?

 

Honestly, the firmware on those Chinese X79 boards is so iffy.  Some can't adjust RAM speed, most can't sleep, some refuse to turbo, badly wired DIMM slots, bunch of weird quirks and they vary widely per board.  You have to dig real deep to find an individual board's issues before buying really.  It's probably just badly designed.

 

I found this Russian YouTuber who reviews these and the Chinese X99 and other similar boards.  He digs really deep into what really works, what is really dual or quad channel memory, and such.  You really see how wildly the boards vary.  On the surface they seem great but that's because you take for granted that 'everything works right' on a name brand board.  Sure if you don't get an overclocking motherboard, you can't OC your K model CPU and such, but that's all by design.  These things instead just have very shoddy firmware.  Sometimes things in the menu, you change them and they don't actually change anything in the hardware.  There do appear to be some 'good ones' but you have to do your research.

 

I have a pair of Asus X79 mobos, they have ECC locked out but at least they work exactly as advertised.

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1 hour ago, CerealExperimentsLain said:

This is a UEFI, it's just boring.  This looks like plenty of server board UEFIs.  There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not 'fancy looking'.  You bought an off brand Chines X79 board and your UEFI interface is dull. 

 

This. "Ugly BIOS/UEFI" would be the least of my concerns buying a Chinese "X79" board. You can't expect polish and perks. 

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2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

This. "Ugly BIOS/UEFI" would be the least of my concerns buying a Chinese "X79" board. You can't expect polish and perks. 

The Chinese X79 boards looked like 'Magic' when they first dropped and all the YouTubers looked at them but they show a lot of flaws once you play with them for more than a couple of hours.  That lack of sleep on a lot of them would be a deal killer for me.  I'm sitting at a 3950X with an RTX 3080, it now runs all day cause I'm working from home on it, using power and spitting out heat as the summer rolls in.  Do you think I want this machine powered on for a second longer than I need it to be?  I'm I'm away from it for 10mins, I want it asleep and sipping 1-2 watts out of the wall.

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2 hours ago, AbydosOne said:

I'm pretty sure it is UEFI, just skinned to look like BIOS. My 2020 laptop UEFI looks just like that.

THIS.

 

Like even on Dell's, switching from UEFI to legacy mode, does nothing to the actual BIOS UI, and the BIOS in nearly all laptop and desktop machines but the XPS models with touch screens look unchanged from machines built in 2014.

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-> Moved to CPUs, Motherboards and Memory

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You are planning to visit BIOS daily? Why? Unless you are overclocking etc. constantly tweaking, you should have no reason to access BIOS so often that UI alone becomes annoying.

 

I doubt any update to BIOS would give new UI. If that board even has updates made to it.

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