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gpu crashing with no artifacting or visual bugs

fish_110
By fish_110
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cpu: Ryzen 5 5600x (stock cooler)

gpu: xfx r9 390x (with fan mod)

psu: Corsair cx 450m 450 watt

ram: GeIL EVO POTENZA 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory

mobo: Gigabyte b450 aorus m

1x Samsung 970 evo plus 250gb (boot drive)

1x TCSunBow x3 240gb ssd

1x hard drive i got from laptop

bios: f60h

os: windows 10 64bit home edition

misc: 4x 120mm rgb fans with rgb off, 2x 120mm fans for gpu one with white leds that cant be turned off one with rgb that is turned off (white led fan running 1200rpm, rgb fan running 1600rpm, both running max because no temperature sensing on gpu fan mod), 1x 1600x900 75hz monitor, 1x 1920x1080 144hz monitor

 

problem: gpu sometimes crashes under light loads from what I've experienced, there are no visual bugs like artifacting or corrupted video but animations for the most part stop playing, any music or videos stop playing, i cant hear anything from discord, gpu drops to zero percent or -1 percent (haven't caught this enough to be sure), opened apps no longer minimize or open after a few seconds, a restart fixes everything until it crashes again, no error messages, usually have discord, opera gx, steam, groove music, sometimes chrome, droidcam client, tablet drivers, and mouse accel drivers, had several different cards installed previously never crashed with xfx rx570, crashes with gtx 645(oem), crashes with evga rtx 2070s, crashes with xfx r9 390x, in radeon software gpu shows up as r9 390 series

 

thank you for your time

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So we have multiple different GPUs all crashing the same way? And both radeon and geforce? In this case we can't talk about the normal causes of such GPU crashes because this alone eliminates the GPU as a variable. Something else, either in software, or your hardware, is causing these issues. Also -1% in GPU usage in task manager, that makes no sense! 

Fuck you scalpers, fuck you scammers, fuck all of you jerks that charge way too much to tech-illiterate people. 

Unless I say I am speaking from experience or can confirm my expertise, assume it is an educated guess.

Current setup: Ryzen 5 3600, MSI MPG B550, 2x8GB DDR4-3200, RX 5600 XT (+120 core, +320 Mem), 1TB WD SN550, 1TB Team MP33, 2TB Seagate Barracuda Compute, 500GB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair 4000D Airflow, 650W 80+ Gold. Razer peripherals. 

Also have a Alienware Alpha R1: i3-4170T, GTX 860M (≈ a 750 Ti). 2x4GB DDR3L-1600, Crucial MX500

My past and current projects: VR Flight Sim: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=dG38Jx (Done!)

A do it all server for educational use: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=vmmNcf (Cancelled)

Replacement of my friend's PC nicknamed Donkey, going from 2nd gen i5 to Zen+ R5: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=WmsW4D (Done!)

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1 minute ago, Doug_Dangger said:

Problem:  psu: Corsair cx 450m 450 watt

R9 390X is highly recommended by AMD to be paired with a 750 watt psu.

But a GTX 645 is also crashing, no way that is going over 450 watts for the combined system power. Also when it goes over the wattage shouldn't it be shutting off the system instead of throttling the GPU? 

Fuck you scalpers, fuck you scammers, fuck all of you jerks that charge way too much to tech-illiterate people. 

Unless I say I am speaking from experience or can confirm my expertise, assume it is an educated guess.

Current setup: Ryzen 5 3600, MSI MPG B550, 2x8GB DDR4-3200, RX 5600 XT (+120 core, +320 Mem), 1TB WD SN550, 1TB Team MP33, 2TB Seagate Barracuda Compute, 500GB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair 4000D Airflow, 650W 80+ Gold. Razer peripherals. 

Also have a Alienware Alpha R1: i3-4170T, GTX 860M (≈ a 750 Ti). 2x4GB DDR3L-1600, Crucial MX500

My past and current projects: VR Flight Sim: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=dG38Jx (Done!)

A do it all server for educational use: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=vmmNcf (Cancelled)

Replacement of my friend's PC nicknamed Donkey, going from 2nd gen i5 to Zen+ R5: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/nathanpete/saved/#view=WmsW4D (Done!)

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12 minutes ago, Nathanpete said:

But a GTX 645 is also crashing, no way that is going over 450 watts for the combined system power.

Nvidia recommends a 450 watt psu for the GTX 645.

 

I've seen so many cases when people try to convince themselves that a "good" psu, despite lower power rating, should be more than enough to do the job.

 

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Also when it goes over the wattage shouldn't it be shutting off the system instead of throttling the GPU? 

No.  I've had times when my display would just go black.  I can hear sounds and the computer is still on.  Likely what happened is the psu could not supply enough current and said, "Screw it, I'm not supplying any more power so I don't blow up".  Such cues are important because when people ignore it, the psu can go out with a vengeance and take out every component connected to it.

 

In 2021 gamers shouldn't go below 600 watts.  If money is a concern, there are quality 600 watt psus for about $50.

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