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Facebook suspends Signal from it's advertising platform

6 minutes ago, Jet_ski said:

Because user data can be sold, but not shared with the users themselves.

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You got this thread comments because you posted it on Tech News subforum. And all i wanna say is fuck you facebook!

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Who uses Facebook anyways? No advertising on Facebook? Who would actually care. I feel like there are much better ways to advertise than Facebook. 

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7 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Who uses Facebook anyways? No advertising on Facebook? Who would actually care. I feel like there are much better ways to advertise than Facebook. 

From Jan 2021: (scale in millions)

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I don't think this includes their WhatsApp and Instagram users.

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6 hours ago, lewdicrous said:

From Jan 2021: (scale in millions)

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I don't think this includes their WhatsApp and Instagram users.

Are these their active users or registered users

 

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I perma deleted facebook 2 weeks ago after a few trial runs of having my account de-activated. Think it needs another 2 weeks of me not logging on until it's permanently gone. I downloaded the data prior so I atleast have it to look back on. Used it for 10+ years. All I gotta say it feels go not to be supporting that company anymore with my time & data. No regrets. If only more normies would do the same. I like what they are doing at Gab, the implemented things so well & the transparent give what money you want model works well 🙂 No adverts so no reason to sell your data. I understand Gab may be to Christian / Conservative which is why I was hoping Parler would take off cause they at least tried to be a platform for all and took no side. Atlass though that got killed by these big tech-companies. Scummy. Really wanted something besides twitter & reddit to get out of my echo-chamber cause it's healthy too. Right now it's only reddit cause I deleted twitter cause they are supper scummy like facebook. Maybe even worse.

 

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9 hours ago, lewdicrous said:

From Jan 2021: (scale in millions)

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I don't think this includes their WhatsApp and Instagram users.

I call bs on those numbers. I'm talking on a regular basis not simply having an account. If that graph were accurate then that would be 2/3 people in the US use Facebook when out of the people I know hardly any use it. Sure do they have an account? Yeah but that doesn't mean shit for advertising. Daily active users is all that matters and I would doubt that those numbers are true. 

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8 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I call bs on those numbers. I'm talking on a regular basis not simply having an account. If that graph were accurate then that would be 2/3 people in the US use Facebook when out of the people I know hardly any use it. Sure do they have an account? Yeah but that doesn't mean shit for advertising. Daily active users is all that matters and I would doubt that those numbers are true. 

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Here's their international monthly average users: In millions again.

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Sources for both:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/268136/top-15-countries-based-on-number-of-facebook-users/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/264810/number-of-monthly-active-facebook-users-worldwide/

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2 minutes ago, lewdicrous said:

-proof and stats-

nuh uh. me and my friends don`t use facebook, therefore these numbers must be faked, because me and my friends represent the rest of the world`s usage of bookface!

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6 minutes ago, Arika S said:

nuh uh. me and my friends don`t use facebook, therefore these numbers must be faked, because me and my friends represent the rest of the world`s usage of bookface!

Oh, shit.. didn't think of that. My bad. 😔

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45 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I call bs on those numbers. I'm talking on a regular basis not simply having an account. If that graph were accurate then that would be 2/3 people in the US use Facebook when out of the people I know hardly any use it. Sure do they have an account? Yeah but that doesn't mean shit for advertising. Daily active users is all that matters and I would doubt that those numbers are true. 

You think it's BS because you think user account mean 1 human person. Personally I have 2 account 1 personal 1 business and at my old work place we use to have 1 account for each product line plus the main company so that was over 15 accounts.  And if I count in all the admin accounts for the various groups I am part of that is probably over 30 account that as not related to a physical person. Those stats count user account, not # of humans.

 

A bit like counting actual firearm in a country. It doesn't mean how many people use firearms but actually how many there are. If we take Canada for example as of May 1st 2020 there was 20 million registered firearms. Population was around 37 millions that would mean half the population has a firearm and that include  babies and kids.

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5 hours ago, lewdicrous said:

Again for advertising you want daily active users. People who only go on your site once a month doesn't mean much to an advertiser. Monthly active users doesn't show who uses the site consistently daily. If you have 200 million in the US using Facebook once a month vs 200 million people using Facebook daily the monthly active users would be the same yet these are two very different perspectives for an advertising agency. If it was only 200 million once a month then advertisers wouldn't put much value to it but of it was 200 million daily they would attach way more value to it. Anyways until I see daily active users numbers then these don't mean much to me. 

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5 hours ago, Franck said:

You think it's BS because you think user account mean 1 human person. Personally I have 2 account 1 personal 1 business and at my old work place we use to have 1 account for each product line plus the main company so that was over 15 accounts.  And if I count in all the admin accounts for the various groups I am part of that is probably over 30 account that as not related to a physical person. Those stats count user account, not # of humans.

 

A bit like counting actual firearm in a country. It doesn't mean how many people use firearms but actually how many there are. If we take Canada for example as of May 1st 2020 there was 20 million registered firearms. Population was around 37 millions that would mean half the population has a firearm and that include  babies and kids.

Yeah I think that assumption is pretty ridiculous for firearms. I mean my dad goes hunting and has multiple different shotguns and rifles depending on where he is hunting and what he is hunting. Same goes for Facebook as well though as I have seen alot of bots on Facebook as well and shady profiles. 

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16 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Who uses Facebook anyways? No advertising on Facebook? Who would actually care. I feel like there are much better ways to advertise than Facebook. 

Manage an e-commerce business and you'd change your mind real quick. Although not ideal, Facebook is probably the top platform for advertising your products, right behind Google and Instagram.

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I'm not sure what to think because Facebook (and Google as well) does allow users to see their advertising data. Actually Lon Seidman made a video about this: 

Maybe it's not the same kind of data? I have no idea but it's quite detailed, so it's not as bad as some people might think.

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On 5/5/2021 at 9:23 AM, Brooksie359 said:

If that graph were accurate then that would be 2/3 people in the US use Facebook when out of the people I know hardly any use it. Sure do they have an account?

1/3rd of americans is 100 million people. Thats not a small group, you can very easily isolate yourself with people who don't use it.

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34 minutes ago, poochyena said:

1/3rd of americans is 100 million people. Thats not a small group, you can very easily isolate yourself with people who don't use it.

I guess its possible. I'm not saying that I don't know people who use it because I do but I actually don't know anyone that uses it on a regular basis. Also I wonder how many of those people are bots as I have encountered many when I use to use it. Granted this was back in 2013 so maybe its gotten better since then. 

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I wonder what else they have, like can they actually tell who is a bot or not?

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On 5/5/2021 at 9:01 AM, Orcblood said:

I perma deleted facebook 2 weeks ago after a few trial runs of having my account de-activated. 🙂

That means nothing. You don't need a Facebook account for them to track and sell your data 

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Doesn't that violate lots of antitrust/anticompetition laws for Facebook to remove Signal...?

Is it plugged in? Is it turned on? Are you sure? No, really. 

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