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Lower ping with Lga 775 onboard realtek ethernet piece of gear

Mahzin93

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I work mainly with programming and stock market and I program expert advisors using MetaTrader 5 platform. For this task I need the best ping I can get but... well, one person I know has another provider with optical fiber with 3 ~ 6 ms, I use DOCSIS 3.1 with Technicolor modem getting from 10 ~ 20 ms. I had before less network bandwidth with an Arris with Puma 6 chipset getting the same ms and using my iPhone XR I get 20 ms using Wi-Fi. Sure Wi-Fi isn't so trustable, but... it's possible to have a better ping using DOCSIS 3.1 with ethernet cable from the version cat8? The cat8 cable is from the Vention brand, but... I use this config.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.5 GHz 6 MB

Asus P5QL-Se // LGA 775 

2x Corsair Xms2 Xtreme 1.9v 2 GB DDR2-800

NVIDIA Quadro FX 580 512 MB GDDR3

Gigabyte PW400 400w 80 Plus

BD-Drive with DvDrw support

As my system I use Windows 7 Professional as I have it originally bought and with Windows 10 Pro (I own this version) I can't run ok since it's 4 GB DDR2-800 RAM and it's hard to find 2x 4 GB RAM from DDR2.

 

I presume the realtek card is the problem, even having the latest driver installed, since it's very old, and even Realtek being good, if I buy an Intel offboard ethernet card, perhaps the ping will be lower? 

 

What do you think? It's a DOCSIS 3.1 limitation? It's the Lga 775 platform limitation? Windows 7 limitation? Please, show me the light for this problem. Than you! I really need at least 8 ms since the ea is very fast to execute orders.

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17 minutes ago, Mahzin93 said:

 

 

What do you think? It's a DOCSIS 3.1 limitation? It's the Lga 775 platform limitation? Windows 7 limitation? Please, show me the light for this problem. Than you! I really need at least 8 ms since the ea is very fast to execute orders.

Yes the platform is End of Life..... 10 years ago. W8 and W8.1 has come and gone and now using W10. 

The entire thing is a limitation. Upgrade the platform and operating system to something modern, you will have your low latency that you desire.

Good Luck!

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I wouldn't depend on such an old system for something you need for work. Those sorts of systems are great for things like NAS use and media servers, but not something where time is extremely important. 

 

Your computer should be perfectly able to run Windows 10, even with only 4GB of RAM. Do you have a mechanical hard drive or an SSD? If it's the former then that's the reason that Windows 10 doesn't run well. 

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1 minute ago, BondiBlue said:

I wouldn't depend on such an old system for something you need for work. Those sorts of systems are great for things like NAS use and media servers, but not something where time is extremely important. 

 

Your computer should be perfectly able to run Windows 10, even with only 4GB of RAM. Do you have a mechanical hard drive or an SSD? If it's the former then that's the reason that Windows 10 doesn't run well. 

I have 2 HDDs, one Seagate Barracuda with 250 GB and one WD Green 2 TB.

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Just now, Mahzin93 said:

I have 2 HDDs, one Seagate Barracuda with 250 GB and one WD Green 2 TB.

That's the issue with Windows 10. Win 10 performs terribly 9 times out of 10 on mechanical hard drives, but it can run really well on an SSD. 

Phobos: AMD Ryzen 7 2700, 16GB 3000MHz DDR4, ASRock B450 Steel Legend, 8GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070, 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 1030, 1TB Samsung SSD 980, 450W Corsair CXM, Corsair Carbide 175R, Windows 10 Pro

 

Polaris: Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2, 32GB 1600MHz DDR3, ASRock X79 Extreme6, 12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080, 6GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, 1TB Crucial MX500, 750W Corsair RM750, Antec SX635, Windows 10 Pro

 

Pluto: Intel Core i7-2600, 32GB 1600MHz DDR3, ASUS P8Z68-V, 4GB XFX AMD Radeon RX 570, 8GB ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570, 1TB Samsung 860 EVO, 3TB Seagate BarraCuda, 750W EVGA BQ, Fractal Design Focus G, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

 

York (NAS): Intel Core i5-2400, 16GB 1600MHz DDR3, HP Compaq OEM, 240GB Kingston V300 (boot), 3x2TB Seagate BarraCuda, 320W HP PSU, HP Compaq 6200 Pro, TrueNAS CORE (12.0)

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11 minutes ago, BondiBlue said:

That's the issue with Windows 10. Win 10 performs terribly 9 times out of 10 on mechanical hard drives, but it can run really well on an SSD. 

But when I had the chance to see it working with 6 GB, doing the same tasks it used more RAM with 6 GB. I have two kits here, one without GPU but with a P5K-Se, but I prefer the P5QL-Se, because of the ICH10R and FSB 1.600 Mhz support. But it's hard to find 2 x 4 GB DDR2.

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1 minute ago, Mahzin93 said:

But when I had the change to see it working with 6 GB, doing the same tasks it used more RAM with 6 GB. I have two kits here, one without GPU but with a P5K-Se, but I prefer the P5QL-Se, because of the ICH10R and FSB 1.600 Mhz support. But it's hard to find 2 x 4 GB DDR2.

Windows will use more RAM if it's available. Trust me, RAM is not your problem when running Windows 10; the mechanical hard drive is the problem. I used to have a Windows 10 machine with 2GB of RAM that was in use for quite a lot of work, and with an SSD it performed alright. 

Phobos: AMD Ryzen 7 2700, 16GB 3000MHz DDR4, ASRock B450 Steel Legend, 8GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070, 2GB Nvidia GeForce GT 1030, 1TB Samsung SSD 980, 450W Corsair CXM, Corsair Carbide 175R, Windows 10 Pro

 

Polaris: Intel Xeon E5-2697 v2, 32GB 1600MHz DDR3, ASRock X79 Extreme6, 12GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080, 6GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, 1TB Crucial MX500, 750W Corsair RM750, Antec SX635, Windows 10 Pro

 

Pluto: Intel Core i7-2600, 32GB 1600MHz DDR3, ASUS P8Z68-V, 4GB XFX AMD Radeon RX 570, 8GB ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570, 1TB Samsung 860 EVO, 3TB Seagate BarraCuda, 750W EVGA BQ, Fractal Design Focus G, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

 

York (NAS): Intel Core i5-2400, 16GB 1600MHz DDR3, HP Compaq OEM, 240GB Kingston V300 (boot), 3x2TB Seagate BarraCuda, 320W HP PSU, HP Compaq 6200 Pro, TrueNAS CORE (12.0)

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Just now, BondiBlue said:

Windows will use more RAM if it's available. Trust me, RAM is not your problem when running Windows 10; the mechanical hard drive is the problem. I used to have a Windows 10 machine with 2GB of RAM that was in use for quite a lot of work, and with an SSD it performed alright. 

Ah, but the ethernet if I switch for Windows 10 (the latest) with the latest drivers, even being a Realtek from 775 platform, it really does a change with ping? Even I using the latest Realtek drivers for W7?

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  • 2 weeks later...

Ping is way faster and I am satisfied, but since I use so much computers and I need the plent use of CPU for MetaTrader 5 calculus, I'm inclined to buy an ethernet card for avoid network data to be processed by CPU, making it slow. A good one? And it's 100% supported in common PCs or only servers? Which brand and model, please?

 

The second question is if JMicron, Marvell or another dedicated (offboard) controller will support my newer SSD from Patriot or can crash it. Since JMicron is present into Asus P5QL-Se and Marvell is used in another systems, I believe compatibility is 100%, but, since it's dedicated I don't know about it so much, I only want to make the use of motherboard less and the CPU too and also will use these improvements to the newer kit I will mount for the future. Ah! SSD is Sata-III I am in Sata-II mode, another reason to buy the controller. Sorry for those I didn't answer and you all rock and helped me so much, you don't imagine! Have a great day people! God bless!

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