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What tier of hardware would you consider "worthless"?

At what point, is it so old and so outdated, so underperforming, do you just consider it junk. It just can't keep up anymore (or in some cases couldn't keep up to begin with).

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Yeah, nothing is really "worthless". 

 

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7 minutes ago, WillOfTheLand said:

At what point, is it so old and so outdated, so underperforming, do you just consider it junk. It just can't keep up anymore (or in some cases couldn't keep up to begin with).

I keep updating my "leave behind" list. Right now it's first-gen Core-i for Desktop, probably Haswell in a laptop. I don't need any more Core 2 chips...

I also have a list of things that are nostalgic/neat to me (anything Palm, anything old Sanyo audio, weird cables).

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I'd say that, personally, my PhysX PPU is 'worthless' since it was only supported in 20-ish games before it was obsolete. However it's still a very cool old piece of hardware.

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20 minutes ago, WillOfTheLand said:

At what point, is it so old and so outdated, so underperforming, do you just consider it junk. It just can't keep up anymore (or in some cases couldn't keep up to begin with).

If what you're trying to use for a given task can't do the task to the standard YOU want it to, it's no longer viable; that said, someone may well be looking for that same hardware, so...

 

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Is this hypothetical or do you have a specific example?

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This is a broad question, the answer really depends on your standards and use case. If we're talking about in general, then the majority of users could easily get away with a system with a 3rd or 4th Gen Intel Core chip, provided they had 8GB RAM and an SSD.

 

If we're talking about current gen stuff, then any ebay prebuilt systems or laptops around the £100/200 mark would be worthless to me, as they have super low end CPUs, and super low end everything elses.

 

If you're really into tech though, then something that the average person sees as trash could be incredibly desirable.

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Anything well before 2012... And the very low end Hardware...

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1 minute ago, whm1974 said:

Anything well before 2012... And the very low end Hardware...

Still too vague...

If you want to know if you should "bin it" or "flip it", knowing what "it" is helps.

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Did you test boot it, before you built in into the case?

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If it's was gpu, Radeon hd 4000 an below series is pretty unusable imho

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When it's not supported even with workarounds/third-party software on a modern OS/programs, but not special enough to keep around as backup or vintage hardware.

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47 minutes ago, SpacePilot7132 said:

GT 710/1030, you can now buy a relatively low end laptop with a better iGPU(iris Xe)

Nope, a GT1030 still beats them mostly.

 

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33 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

Anything well before 2012... And the very low end Hardware...

Go look at the pricetag of Voodoo 2 12MB 3D Accelerators on Ebay.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

Still too vague...

If you want to know if you should "bin it" or "flip it", knowing what "it" is helps.

Mid-range to High End from 2010 may still be useful...

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If CPU fits either one of these criteria, I wouldnt consider using them in anyway period :

  • Single core,
  • has no X64 support,
  • Doesn't even support DDR2,

If a GPU fits either one of these criteria I wouldnt use them in anyway

  • No DX10 support,
  • No drivers for Windows 10 (or worst case scenario 7) or not supported by linux kernel,
  • Has less than 512mb of vram per GPU,

As far RAM and motherboard goes, if it fits any of these I wouldnt even bother picking it up:

  • Anything older than 775
  • Not even DDR2 support
  • Has no PCIE

This does not mean they are worthless, they just have no use for me.

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Entirely depends on use case. 

 

Sure a c2d might be bad for gaming, but is perfectly sufficient for a htpc or basic browsing machine

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3090 and below, all trash

 

Now stop buying them

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1 hour ago, WillOfTheLand said:

At what point, is it so old and so outdated, so underperforming, do you just consider it junk. It just can't keep up anymore (or in some cases couldn't keep up to begin with).

Personally, I wouldn't bother with anything older than Intel's 5th gen CPUs or AMD's equivalent, or NVIDIA's 700-series or AMD's equivalent. For RAM, HDDs and the likes, tho, it doesn't really matter as long as it works with whatever CPUs/mobos I have.

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22 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

Mid-range to High End from 2010 may still be useful...

If it works, it's useable... if YOU have no use case for it, then bin it (flip it, if you 'need' the money).

 

EDIT:

I still have an i5-750 with its 'board & RAM... I can't bring myself to sell it/bin it, so I'm hanging on to it.

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The tier where your grandma couldn't safely and satisfactorily browse the internet with it. Remember that even hardware which can't play games at all could still be valuable to someone simply as an outlet for communication and information.

 

Of course this is setting aside the fact that even hardware older than that isn't necessarily "worthless" to a hobbyist who wants to build a retro machine, depending on what it is. 

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1 hour ago, SpacePilot7132 said:

GT 710/1030, you can now buy a relatively low end laptop with a better iGPU(iris Xe)

1030 eh, buy like low end Intel igpus from 5 years years ago have been beating the 710, not just irisxe

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8 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

3090 and below, all trash

 

Now stop buying them

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Personally, today, I wouldn't bother with anything older than fourth gen core i5 for Intel and gen 1 Ryzen 5 for AMD as for as old hardware goes...

 

And as for new hardware... it depends. If it's a dual core, I wouldn't even bother thinking about it and GPUs under what I'd consider "mid to low range" like a GTX1050, is also out of my range of products I care for.

 

That said, once you reach the point where the old hardware simply doesn't work anymore on newer OSes, it might be time to replace it or switch to Linux. Outdated OSes is just a security risk on your network.

 

But as long as someone, somewhere out there, thinks their old Pentium 3 computer running Windows ME is "good enough" for their purpose, who am I to silently judge them.

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The very top tier and the very bottom tier.

 

I aim for upper middle tier for best value up to middle upper tier for something special without going OTT.

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1 hour ago, TetraSky said:

But as long as someone, somewhere out there, thinks their old Pentium 3 computer running Windows ME is "good enough" for their purpose, who am I to silently judge them.

Most of them are limited to 1.5 to 2GB at the most, if even that. That Person will not be able to do much.

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