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IOS gets an immediate update. Apparently critical(?)

Apple is posting a security update to 14.5 called 14.5.1. Amongst other stuff it patches two vulnerabilities one of which is critical and the other of which is critical AND zero day (though they do not use that term) apparently according to the article

 

https://mashable.com/article/apple-iphone-ios-1451-security-updates/

 

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According to Apple, iOS 14.5.1 (and iPadOS 14.5.1) fixes two vulnerabilities which could give hackers the ability to run commands on a victim's phone. In other words, they're bad. 


I kind of wonder if the zero day is hackentosh stuff.  These days hackentosh needs a root exploit to function.  The language of the article implies critical zero day stuff but those specific terms are not used.  I don’t know if it’s “sky is falling” stuff, or if it’s Apple trying to avoid embarrassment.

 

I’m gonna run it though.  I don’t need to root my phone.

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i always wonder, waht are the odds that you are gonna run into the exact right thing to exploit the weakness?

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Just now, Xii-Nyth said:

i always wonder, waht are the odds that you are gonna run into the exact right thing to exploit the weakness?

If someone post you a link to a specially crafted website, or message you a specially crafted message, or stuff like that. 

 

I remember some friends sending a message that would crash the device when received. It was a pain...

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5 minutes ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

If someone post you a link to a specially crafted website, or message you a specially crafted message, or stuff like that. 

 

I remember some friends sending a message that would crash the device when received. It was a pain...

I even remember seeing jokes about how it was a thing to get people to hit some function key in a game that caused automatic quit out because it was supposed to be funny or something.  People will do all kinds of stuff.

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19 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

I even remember seeing jokes about how it was a thing to get people to hit some function key in a game that caused automatic quit out because it was supposed to be funny or something.  People will do all kinds of stuff.

Press Alt+F4 to make your PC go faster 😉

 

I mean it mentions web content, so in essence all you need to do is visit a website that contains the exploit. Could potentially be used to infect people with a bitcoin miner or something.

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1 hour ago, Eigenvektor said:

Press Alt+F4 to make your PC go faster 😉

 

I mean it mentions web content, so in essence all you need to do is visit a website that contains the exploit. Could potentially be used to infect people with a bitcoin miner or something.

So yes to critical vulnerability but the word is not used.  I wonder why?

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25 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

So yes to critical vulnerability but the word is not used.  I wonder why?

Because people don't update anyway. Does it even matter what word is used? I'm surely gonna update coz I always update the moment updates are out, but most don't and they just... wait. For something...

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35 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

So yes to critical vulnerability but the word is not used.  I wonder why?

Not sure. Apple does mention more technical details and they also refer to the CVEs: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212336

 

Searching for either of the CVEs doesn't return much of anything yet: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=CVE-2021-30663

 

I assume both of them are critical and they are withholding further details until the fix has had some time to spread.

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3 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I kind of wonder if the zero day is hackentosh stuff.

I'm not sure what a random security vulnerability on iphones has to do with "hackintosh stuff"...

26 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Not sure. Apple does mention more technical details and they also refer to the CVEs: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212336

 

Searching for either of the CVEs doesn't return much of anything yet: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=CVE-2021-30663

 

I assume both of them are critical and they are withholding further details until the fix has had some time to spread.

I don't know how Apple typically classifies vulnerabilities but they can call it whatever they want - "critical" is just a common term used for high risk vulnerabilities but they are under no obligation to use it.

 

But yes, these would both be considered critical by most standards and here's a more detailed description of them:

https://www.cybersecurity-help.cz/vdb/SB2021050315

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1 hour ago, Sauron said:

I don't know how Apple typically classifies vulnerabilities but they can call it whatever they want - "critical" is just a common term used for high risk vulnerabilities but they are under no obligation to use it.

I agree, but I think CVEs have some common rules that define what is classified as critical etc. It's just that the CVEs contain no details yet. I assume those will be provided at a later date.

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I just updated my Apfel strudel. It is now unhackable!

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7 hours ago, Sauron said:

I'm not sure what a random security vulnerability on iphones has to do with "hackintosh stuff"...

I don't know how Apple typically classifies vulnerabilities but they can call it whatever they want - "critical" is just a common term used for high risk vulnerabilities but they are under no obligation to use it.

 

But yes, these would both be considered critical by most standards and here's a more detailed description of them:

https://www.cybersecurity-help.cz/vdb/SB2021050315

My understanding is Apple tends to fight hackintosh so at least lately some sort of root is required in order to inject stuff to make it possible.  This is more a phone thing than a desktop thing so “hackintosh” is probably less accurate.  I think of All Apple shenanigans as being “hackentosh stuff” though which is why I used the term. I could see such a thing being jumped on by a legitimate community that needs it faster than criminals.

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5 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

My understanding is Apple tends to fight hackintosh so at least lately some sort of root is required in order to inject stuff to make it possible.  This is more a phone thing than a desktop thing so “hackintosh” is probably less accurate.  I think of All Apple shenanigans as being “hackentosh stuff” though which is why I used the term. I could see such a thing being jumped on by a legitimate community that needs it faster than criminals.

Hackintosh is specific to running MacOs on a normal (non apple) PC. Macs don't need a jailbreak or root or anything, you can just put another os on it. a On a iPad, applewatch, iPhone, or apple TV, the shenanagains are jailbreaks.

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3 hours ago, RejZoR said:

I just updated my Apfel strudel. It is now unhackable!

Do not hack the apfel strudel.  It squirts Apple everywhere. Cut carefully.  Other oddities: if you reheat strudel is it now an empanada?

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12 hours ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

If someone post you a link to a specially crafted website, or message you a specially crafted message, or stuff like that. 

 

I remember some friends sending a message that would crash the device when received. It was a pain...

thats true, im still waiting on my pokemon emojis on my ipod 6

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20 minutes ago, sub68 said:

Good that I am not on IOS anymore

Don't worry, there will be another Android exploit soon. It's only a matter of time.

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3 minutes ago, StDragon said:

Don't worry, there will be another Android exploit soon. It's only a matter of time.

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13 hours ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

If someone post you a link to a specially crafted website, or message you a specially crafted message, or stuff like that. 

 

I remember some friends sending a message that would crash the device when received. It was a pain...

Yeah it was an Indian character iOS couldn’t understand. Crashed the phone.

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13 hours ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

If someone post you a link to a specially crafted website, or message you a specially crafted message, or stuff like that. 

 

I remember some friends sending a message that would crash the device when received. It was a pain...

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36 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Effective Power was a bug due to Persian being written right to left and contained ASCII characters. It was super fun while it was active lol

Persian is Iran plus some other stuff. (Persia had its own boundaries but locals still speak it) It’s the language much of Baha’i philosophy is written in.  This IMHO is the most difficult thing about the religion 19 volumes of turn of the century Persian poetry.  Ugh.

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Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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21 hours ago, sub68 said:

Good that I am not on IOS anymore

To elaborate on what StDragon said... it's a bit odd to celebrate that when you're statistically more likely to be insecure and, depending on your device, may have to wait weeks or months for a fix.

 

I never get why Google lets Android OEMs deliver security fixes for some phones on a quarterly basis instead of monthly. I'm also not sure Google requires that OEMs provide quick fixes for urgent issues; I haven't had much success tracking that down. But even if it does, it's a bit ridiculous... Google should really force all OEMs to provide monthly updates for all phones so long as they're eligible to receive security updates in the first place.

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