Opinions about the Asus ROG Swift PG32UQX

[Stahlmann]

In the next month or two this monitor will get released for a whopping $3500. It's (to my knowledge) the first G-Sync Ultimate HDR1400 monitor that also has a 144Hz refresh rate with DSC, thus probably taking the crown for "the ultimate gaming monitor".

This monitor probably includes the most complete feature-set of any monitor currently on the market or announced.

4k / 144Hz / HDR1400 / 1152 Zone miniLED backlight / DSC (no chroma subsampling) / 32" / IPS / etc.

 

I'm curious:

- Anyone here that already decided to get one?

- What is the price you'd be willing to pay for a high-end HDR1400 experience?

 

I didn't yet decide for myself. But i'm thinking of selling my LG 27GN950 and LG C9 OLED, adding a couple hundred (or more, lol) and getting one myself. (of course only after seeing proper third-party reviews confirming it's performance)

[xg32]

13 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

In the next month or two this monitor will get released for a whopping $3500. It's (to my knowledge) the first G-Sync Ultimate HDR1400 monitor that also has a 144Hz refresh rate, thus probably taking the crown for "the ultimate gaming monitor".

This monitor probably includes the most complete feature-set of any monitor currently on the market or announced.

4k / 144Hz / HDR1400 / 1152 Zone miniLED backlight / DSC (no chroma subsampling) / 32" / IPS / etc.

 

I'm curious:

- Anyone here that already decided to get one?

- What is the price you'd be willing to pay for a high-end HDR1400 experience?

 

I didn't yet decide for myself. But i'm thinking of selling my LG 27GN950 and LG C9 OLED, adding a couple hundred (or more, lol) and getting one myself. (of course only after seeing proper third-party reviews confirming it's performance)

There's ghosting in the german review at 144hz so it's really 120. 

 

There's also the pa27ucg  but that one is hdmi 2.1 freesync only (gonna need a current gen gpu) and i assume it'll be more expensive, the original rumored price was 7k.

 

I have the PA272w (barely does 60hz, with ghosting) and the colors do look considerably better than the x27, the proart will be the first 4k 120hz professional monitor ever, hyped.

 

So if you can, look at both, and make sure the colors on the 32ucg doesn't completely dumpster the uqx first. If i really can't find a gpu and all i see is the uqx in stock, i might get it.

 

The ucg made things really interesting, nothing's set in stone yet

 

https://www.asus.com/us/Displays-Desktops/Monitors/ProArt/ProArt-Display-PA32UCG/

 

Would have prefer 27inch but that's a personal preference + we got that last gen.

[Stahlmann]

3 hours ago, xg32 said:

There's ghosting in the german review at 144hz so it's really 120. 

 

There's also the pa27ucg  but that one is hdmi 2.1 freesync only (gonna need a current gen gpu) and i assume it'll be more expensive, the original rumored price was 7k.

 

I have the PA272w (barely does 60hz, with ghosting) and the colors do look considerably better than the x27, the proart will be the first 4k 120hz professional monitor ever, hyped.

 

So if you can, look at both, and make sure the colors on the 32ucg doesn't completely dumpster the uqx first. If i really can't find a gpu and all i see is the uqx in stock, i might get it.

 

The ucg made things really interesting, nothing's set in stone yet

 

https://www.asus.com/us/Displays-Desktops/Monitors/ProArt/ProArt-Display-PA32UCG/

 

Would have prefer 27inch but that's a personal preference + we got that last gen.

Yeah i've read the german review already. But all in all still seems like a great product with an even bigger price. I'm gonna wait until i can maybe get some reviews from Hardware Unboxed and RTings in too.

 

Problem with the ProArt monitors is the price. They still seem to be about twice as expensive.

A nice bonus however is that these ProArt displays also support Dolby Vision and HLG in addition to HDR10.

 

Current gen GPU is not a problem. I have had a 3080 since september. HDMI dependability is something i would really dislike. I'm still trying to get my LG C9 OLED to properly work with HDMI 2.1 and my 3080. It's just a shitshow with one issue arising after the other.

 

10 hours ago, Piecku said:

I kind of want it just because everything else is trash in comparison. But I really don't like the dimming zones because that just creates ugly halo effects around things (especially text). And to be honest I wish they made a 27 inch version instead of a 31.5 inch. What I'm afraid of is buying it only to have an OLED gaming monitor pop up in ~1 year or so. I would much rather spend $3000 on that than on this "perfect" monitor.

How much of these Halos will be visible in reality depends on how aggressive the backlight will function. Some TV manufacturers managed to make the halos almost invisible even with 100 zone backlights, etc. Yeah the thing about the OLED is also true, but what stops you from selling this monitor and buying the OLED when it comes out? Monitors like these normally don't lose value quickly and they have a big market. You'll probably have many small studios getting into HDR grading that want something like this from the 2nd hand market.

 

Altough i quite enjoy my 27" 4K monitor that i currently have, i'd rather have 32" with 4K. The extra size would allow to use less scaling and thus give more screen real estate. Right now i have to use 150% scaling to be able to properly use my monitor. 125% or even 100% is just so small that it makes stuff barely readable.

[Stahlmann]

@Piecku @xg32

 

Nvm, just saw the video review from optimum tech:

 

TLDW:

 

Pros

- HDR really is impressive and unlike any other current monitor

- finally a 4K 144Hz 32" monitor

 

Cons

- Response times look like from mid-range VA monitors

- No HDMI 2.1 (not a dealbreaker for me but i'd say for many people who also want their console to fully utilize this monitor)

- Clear purple/magenta lines in between the backlight zones when 2 zones show something white, like for example your browser (seriously, why would anyone think this is ok in a product like this)

- obiously price ($3000)

 

Maybe i was ready to really splurge on a a high-end monitor if it offers a truly non-compromise experience. But somehow every brand releases products that seem very close to perfect but then have some very bad oversights that completely ruin it for many people. (Kinda like the Samsung G7, which would be a great monitor but so many people are steered away because of the ridiculous curve) Gonna skip this one aswell and await the response from Asus's competitors. Maybe they can offer a more complete package. I simply don't want to make any compromise at all when spending so much on a monitor alone...

[jasonvp]

21 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Gonna skip this one a swell and await the response from Asus's competitors. Maybe they can offer a more complete package. I simply don't want to make any compromise at all when spending so much on a monitor alone...

 

You'll be waiting a while.  There's only one company making a panel like that at the moment, and that's AUO.  Any monitor that's built from that same panel (see: Acer X32, or the new ViewSonic planned for this summer) will have identical performance.  It's all down to the actual panel.

 

Set expectations accordingly.

[Stahlmann]

10 hours ago, jasonvp said:

 

You'll be waiting a while.  There's only one company making a panel like that at the moment, and that's AUO.  Any monitor that's built from that same panel (see: Acer X32, or the new ViewSonic planned for this summer) will have identical performance.  It's all down to the actual panel.

 

Set expectations accordingly.

Yeah i know most of the stuff is about the panel itself. But asus still has full conrol over features like including HDMI 2.1 for example. Maybe the competitors will offer a more complete package.

 

But somehow i'm happy that my urge to buy this died down. All in all i still have my 27GN950 which is awesome by itself and will still last me a long while if i want to keep it. (Which is the plan atm.)

 

Still hoping LG or Samsung will come up with a 27" or 32" 4K 144/120Hz OLED monitor. That would be my absolute dream monitor. But OLED is only just coming to LG's first monitor, which is a 60Hz panel for professionals.

[jasonvp]

1 hour ago, Stahlmann said:

Yeah i know most of the stuff is about the panel itself. But asus still has full conrol over features like including HDMI 2.1 for example.

And that's incorrect thinking.  The panel is set to support GSync ultimate (ie with the controller chip).  That tech does not support HDMI.  Only DisplayPort.  So no addition of HDMI 2.1 will happen.

[xg32]

2 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

- Clear purple/magenta lines in between the backlight zones when 2 zones show something white, like for example your browser (seriously, why would anyone think this is ok in a product like this)

this is definitely not there in the older monitors, i'm trying to think if it's even usable (it's probably something most are willing to put up with), but it's definitely worse than just the white glow alone, could be a deal killer. No HDMI and response time is whatever (all about 4k/120 with colors)

 

Also. noisy fans are back, can't get around the gsync module.

[Stahlmann]

6 hours ago, jasonvp said:

And that's incorrect thinking.  The panel is set to support GSync ultimate (ie with the controller chip).  That tech does not support HDMI.  Only DisplayPort.  So no addition of HDMI 2.1 will happen.

That has nothing to do with the panel they chose, but the older G-Sync module they chose. AUO doesn't supply the G-Sync module and it's not needed for the panel to work. Asus made the choice to go with this particular G-Sync module that doesn't allow for HDMI 2.1. That doesn't mean their competitors will do the same. There have been plenty of monitors in the past where they use the same panel and then some decide to build in a G-Sync module while others decide to just build in FreeSync support.

 

Asus could have made the decision to ditch the hardware G-Sync module and make this a FreeSync monitor to go around the limitations that module introduced.

 

Also i don't expect to get G-Sync over HDMI 2.1. G-Sync is only relevant on PC, so i don't care if i have to use DP. But for VRR to work on consoles you can't use DP and need HDMI. As this is only HDMI 2.0b it will be limited to 4K 60Hz 4:2:2 when it's being used on consoles, which is a bad decision imo from Asus.

 

Also one thing i forgot to mention in my last post, which is also a huge no-no for me: The panel needs active cooling and actually can be louder than a SFF PC.

[Amaranth]

I was interested in it, since while I'm enjoying my 27GN950 so far I think that 32" will be a better option for 4k and I'd have considered upgrading, but between the fan noise and price I definitely wont be picking it up. Particularly with a potential 42" LG OLED panel coming out in the near future (although that would likely require HDMI 2.1 and I have no idea when I'll be able to source a GPU that supports that).

[Amaranth]

13 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Gonna skip this one aswell and await the response from Asus's competitors. Maybe they can offer a more complete package.

That wouldn't be the first time that happened, the PG27UQ had to use 4:2:2 chroma subsampling instead of 4:4:4 and it also had a noisy fan.
Both features that were fixed by other companies. It seems like Asus' strategy, at least with monitors, has been to be able to yell 'FIRST' but ultimately make flawed products.

[Stahlmann]

11 minutes ago, Amaranth said:

Particularly with a potential 42" LG OLED panel coming out in the near future (although that would likely require HDMI 2.1 and I have no idea when I'll be able to source a GPU that supports that).

HDMI 2.1 won't be an issue for me as i have a 3080 and it's been firing up my 55" C9 OLED @4K 120Hz now and then. But 42" is imo still way too big for a monitor.

 

If they introduce a new size every generation we'll have 42" this gen and then maybe 32" in the next gen C2 TV's  (hopeful thinking)

That would be what i'd be glad to invest in.

 

Idk what's taking them so long to get there though. They have the tech and i bet there are plenty of people out there who'd gladly take a 32" 4K 120Hz OLED TV as a monitor.

[Smackaroy]

On 4/30/2021 at 10:53 AM, Stahlmann said:

HDMI 2.1 won't be an issue for me as i have a 3080 and it's been firing up my 55" C9 OLED @4K 120Hz now and then. But 42" is imo still way too big for a monitor.

 

If they introduce a new size every generation we'll have 42" this gen and then maybe 32" in the next gen C2 TV's  (hopeful thinking)

That would be what i'd be glad to invest in.

 

Idk what's taking them so long to get there though. They have the tech and i bet there are plenty of people out there who'd gladly take a 32" 4K 120Hz OLED TV as a monitor.

As much as we all we wish for that we are a small group. LG will never make a TV smaller than 42 inches because no one will buy a TV below that. Let's just hope LG gaming can make some oleds.

[Stahlmann]

6 hours ago, Smackaroy said:

As much as we all we wish for that we are a small group. LG will never make a TV smaller than 42 inches because no one will buy a TV below that. Let's just hope LG gaming can make some oleds.

I don't remember where i read it, but it seems like LG is planning on more OLED displays between 42" and 27". It remains to be seen how many (if any) of these will be gaming models.