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I got a RX6800XT and I use a 1440 Ultrawide monitor (3440x1440).  The game I play the most is Sea Of Thieves.  I have noticed in more graphically challenging areas my frame rate drops to below 60FPS, however looking at the game metrics its not running at full speed.


For example, these areas the clock speed will be around 1400Mhz and the GPU utilisation will be around 75%.
GPU Temps will be around  70-75C and the junction temp about 80C.

 

I have turned off any Vsync, I can find and any frame rate limit. I have set the GPU to default clock, Rage mode, overclock etc and it makes no difference.

My CPU is a Ryzen 2600X, and that is showing 25% utilisation when playing.

Any ideas why on more graphically challenging parts of the game the GPU seems to want to take it easy?

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Have you tried the latest Adrenalin 21.4.1 driver yet? If not, try it and see if it resolves the issue. Another possibility is to set min and max frequency in Adrenalin control panel....heard it resolved the problem of inconsistent framerate due to GPU no running higher clockspeed. I have no such issue, as well and many others though if does seem a few do (suspect it's more of a software issue than anything else).

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1 hour ago, johnsoner13 said:

2600x is too slow. 2600 held back my 5700 so itll definitely hold back your 6800xt.

Don't agree with this, but I'd say that OP would definitely see better performance with, say, an R& 3700X. 2600X when paired with Radeon GPU's perform better at lower res (1080P) in CPU bound games than with lower tier Intel CPU's like the i3 10100 (and an nVidia GPU) due to nVidia driver overhead. Still, would suggest OP try to set min/max GPU clock in Adrenalin and see if that helps.

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2 hours ago, johnsoner13 said:

2600x is too slow. 2600 held back my 5700 so itll definitely hold back your 6800xt.

At 3440 x 1440, it’s going to most likely be a GPU bottleneck for any mid-range or high-end CPU within the last 2-3 years.

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2 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

At 3440 x 1440, it’s going to most likely be a GPU bottleneck for any mid-range or high-end CPU within the last 2-3 years.

Yeah but looking at the post its clear its not gpu bound

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26 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

Don't agree with this, but I'd say that OP would definitely see better performance with, say, an R& 3700X. 2600X when paired with Radeon GPU's perform better at lower res (1080P) in CPU bound games than with lower tier Intel CPU's like the i3 10100 (and an nVidia GPU) due to nVidia driver overhead. Still, would suggest OP try to set min/max GPU clock in Adrenalin and see if that helps.

Setting max/min clock wont help. Reading the post its clear its not gpu bound. 2600x weak asf

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2 minutes ago, johnsoner13 said:

Yeah but looking at the post its clear its not gpu bound

The problem with that is the 2600X was only running at 25% utilization. I’ve seen setting a min and max frame rate work for some, so it’s worth a shot.

2 minutes ago, johnsoner13 said:

Setting max/min clock wont help. Reading the post its clear its not gpu bound. 2600x weak asf

2600X is still a very capable CPU. It’s not a 5950X, but I wouldn’t say it’s “weak asf.”

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14 minutes ago, johnsoner13 said:

Setting max/min clock wont help. Reading the post its clear its not gpu bound. 2600x weak asf

Wow, a 2600X is weak asf? Really?! He'd reported that his GPU clockspeed hitting just 1400MHz causing slowdowns, not unexpected IF the GPU core slows down for whatever reasons (possibly due to driver not being optimized for the game).

 

An RX 6800 XT should be constantly doing about 2Ghz or higher for good framerate, so I put it to you that while an R5 2600X may not be ideal, it's certainly not 'weak asf' as you'd claimed.

 

To OP, I'd suggest you check out RX 6000 related threads in guru3d and TPU, I recall reading something about GPU clocks not being boosted in games resulting in bad gameplay.

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20 minutes ago, Random_Person1234 said:

The problem with that is the 2600X was only running at 25% utilization.

If you knew anything about anything, total CPU usage means nothing. We need usage of individual cores/threads

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11 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

Wow, a 2600X is weak asf? Really?! He'd reported that his GPU clockspeed hitting just 1400MHz causing slowdowns, not unexpected IF the GPU core slows down for whatever reasons (possibly due to driver not being optimized for the game).

 

An RX 6800 XT should be constantly doing about 2Ghz or higher for good framerate, so I put it to you that while an R5 2600X may not be ideal, it's certainly not 'weak asf' as you'd claimed.

 

To OP, I'd suggest you check out RX 6000 related threads in guru3d and TPU, I recall reading something about GPU clocks not being boosted in games resulting in bad gameplay.

As someone that had one, it is. Slow clocks and lame IPC equal to that of old intel chips. Gpu not boosting and has low clocks because hes cpu bound

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6 hours ago, johnsoner13 said:

As someone that had one, it is. Slow clocks and lame IPC equal to that of old intel chips. Gpu not boosting and has low clocks because hes cpu bound

2600x equal to like i5 8400. it is decent cpu overall

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6 hours ago, johnsoner13 said:

Slow clocks and lame IPC equal to that of old intel chips.

the Ipc is actually better than 9th gen Intel. but the slow clocks make it slightly worse than 9400f for example. 

 

and at that res cpu is likely not the bottleneck. other than in Warzone for example

 

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I have been questioning whether it is the CPU, its getting on a bit, but wouldn't the CPU usage be higher than 25-30% I am seeing?
I even checked the core usage on Task Manager, expecting to find a couple of cores maxed out but the usage is very evenly spread

 

Using the Gears 5,  Forza 4 and Dirt 5 benchmarks, the GPU goes way over 2200Mhz and 90%+ utilisation and the CPU is at 40-60%.

 

I am running latest drivers and there was an update just a couple of days ago.

 

I've even tried running the game on a 1080P monitor and the performance doesn't go up that much and again the GPU metrics looks like its got its feet up enjoying a beer.

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14 minutes ago, SRRAE said:

I have been questioning whether it is the CPU, its getting on a bit, but wouldn't the CPU usage be higher than 25-30% I am seeing?
I even checked the core usage on Task Manager, expecting to find a couple of cores maxed out but the usage is very evenly spread

Ok, i mean that doesn't sound like a cpu bottleneck, but generally taskmanager is unreliable for such "tasks" you should rather check the usage in real time ingame with MSI afterburner overlay... simply select all cpu cores,  and cpu and gpu usage , maybe also memory to be sure. 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SRRAE said:

I have been questioning whether it is the CPU, its getting on a bit, but wouldn't the CPU usage be higher than 25-30% I am seeing?
I even checked the core usage on Task Manager, expecting to find a couple of cores maxed out but the usage is very evenly spread

 

Using the Gears 5,  Forza 4 and Dirt 5 benchmarks, the GPU goes way over 2200Mhz and 90%+ utilisation and the CPU is at 40-60%.

 

I am running latest drivers and there was an update just a couple of days ago.

 

I've even tried running the game on a 1080P monitor and the performance doesn't go up that much and again the GPU metrics looks like its got its feet up enjoying a beer.

Are those games smooth? I mean with the RX 6800 XT ramping up its boost clock, regardless of the CPU usage (I dunno why some, not here, think that they want to or ought to see 100% utilization - which to me, isn't ideal, I'd be just as happy to see 70%-90% utilization as long as the GPU is doing what it should and gameplay is smooth. I disagree that the 2600X is, while not exactly the best, isn't as 'weak asf' as someone had so erroneously put it. 

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6 hours ago, GamerDude said:

Are those games smooth? I mean with the RX 6800 XT ramping up its boost clock, regardless of the CPU usage (I dunno why some, not here, think that they want to or ought to see 100% utilization - which to me, isn't ideal, I'd be just as happy to see 70%-90% utilization as long as the GPU is doing what it should and gameplay is smooth. I disagree that the 2600X is, while not exactly the best, isn't as 'weak asf' as someone had so erroneously put it. 

In Sea of Thieves, I do notice the stutter as the frame dips below 60fps at times when I cant see a reason  Yes I am on an island but judging by how hard the GPU is working it should do lot more. I've overclocked my CPU to 4.3Ghz and it made very little difference so I dont think it is a bottle neck.
 

I have added a screen shot of what I find to be the location with the biggest drop in frames. and you can see the GPU seems to be hardly trying.  The MHz will bounce around the 1000-1500 mark.

No other game I play does this sort of thing.  I'm wonder whether it more an issue of just this game.  I'd be interested to see if any nvidia owners seeing the same thing

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I suspect it's a game or driver issue, have you checked with the Sea of Thieves forums (IF there's one that is), doesn't sound like a hardware issue if it's just that one game where the GPU doesn't quite perform as it should. Forget the suggestion that it's the CPU, the 2600X is still good for gaming, and even productivity, sure not as good as a 5600X (or 3600X for the matter) but still good.

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On sea of thieves mythical settings but only at 1080p my 6700xt is locked at 100% utilization over 140 fps with a 5600x. 2600x is weak

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1 hour ago, johnsoner13 said:

1080p

That resolution is primed for CPU bottleneck. Your results are not comparable to OP since you're using a much lower resolution. 

OP's issue is quite evidently an issue with the GPU not boosting high enough, not a CPU bottleneck. I don't see why you have to keep reiterating that the 2600X is weak. It's not helpful in solving OP's problem and is simply not true. 

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It seems the majority of the issues was being caused by Windows update KB5001330.

After uninstalling the update I instantly noticed a difference in general performance.


The location where the screen shot was taken I still doesn't push the GPU to 100% but it now is at over 60 FPS and other island locations its around the 100FPS mark where before it was just below 60pfs and stuttering a lot.

 

Thanks for the help and suggestions.

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5 hours ago, Random_Person1234 said:

That resolution is primed for CPU bottleneck. Your results are not comparable to OP since you're using a much lower resolution. 

OP's issue is quite evidently an issue with the GPU not boosting high enough, not a CPU bottleneck. I don't see why you have to keep reiterating that the 2600X is weak. It's not helpful in solving OP's problem and is simply not true. 

Exactly. And the fact that it’s “primed for cpu bottleneck” but my gpu is still at 100% means his cpu is slow asf

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5 hours ago, Random_Person1234 said:

I don't see why you have to keep reiterating that the 2600X is weak. It's not helpful in solving OP's problem and is simply not true. 

Because it is. And it is helpful if he would upgrade it. 2600 wasnt even enough for my 5700, you think it’s enough for his 6800xt? Yeah hes using a higher resolution but looking at the low usage it’s clear he would benefit hugely from a faster cpu

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1 minute ago, johnsoner13 said:

Because it is. And it is helpful if he would upgrade it. 2600 wasnt even enough for my 5700, you think it’s enough for his 6800xt? Yeah hes using a higher resolution but looking at the low usage it’s clear he would benefit hugely from a faster cpu

What resolution were you using the the 5700 on? And on what games and settings?

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