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Can we reduce the cost of this RTX 3090 build? (design & rendering)

Mattice
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Hi all, I'm currently making a new build for a design and rendering workstation. I would like to cut down the costs a bit since I'll need to get my hands on an overpriced RTX 3090 because of the VRAM that's needed for my renders... I will need a 2TB SSD, 64gb of RAM (for simulations) and a great high-core count processor, preferably Ryzen 9. I just want the system to be quiet and well balanced in performance. I do not plan on doing any overclocking, it needs to be stable.

 

Budget (including currency): 3000 euro ($3600), the less the better

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Generative design, procedural modelling & regular CAD modelling, GPU based rendering, parametric design, VFX (Keyshot (GPU), Unreal Engine, Rhino, heavy Grasshopper scripts, Houdini, Maya, Siemens NX, Zbrush,...)

 

CPU:

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($499.99 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler:

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard:

Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory:

G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($344.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage:

Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($307.75 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Founders Edition Video Card  ($2100.00 - hopefully a lot less....) 
Power Supply:

Corsair AX 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($265.98 @ Newegg) 
Case:

Dune Pro Case ($249.00)


Total: $4087.69

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qnMd2V

 

Any suggestions to cut down on costs somewhere? Maybe the cooler, memory, PSU,...

 

 

 

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Could you save money by getting the non wifi board? I know for me I never use wifi on my PC since it's mostly for gaming. Not sure if you need wifi but if not you could possobly cut some slight cost there.

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2 minutes ago, RegulatorRWF said:

Could you save money by getting the non wifi board? I know for me I never use wifi on my PC since it's mostly for gaming. Not sure if you need wifi but if not you could possobly cut some slight cost there.

Sure, but it's not that big of a difference unfortunately

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You can get a way cheaper M.2 SSD. 

Fuck you scalpers, fuck you scammers, fuck all of you jerks that charge way too much to tech-illiterate people. 

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Any particular reason you're going with that case? There are so many more on the market that you could save a lot of money instead of paying $250

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1 minute ago, Nathanpete said:

You can get a way cheaper M.2 SSD. 

do you have any recommendations?

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Just now, m1lk3y said:

Any particular reason you're going with that case? There are so many more on the market that you could save a lot of money instead of paying $250

Well I really like the case, some hate the aesthetic but it's perfect for me. It's indeed quite pricey but I'm hoping I could cut down the costs on some of the other parts

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i guess wait for the 3090 to drop in price? also a case with a similar look for half the price.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor €443.99 @ Alternate Belgium
CPU Cooler ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler €100.95 @ Bytes At Work
Motherboard Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard €136.95 @ Megekko
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory €416.85 @ Megekko
Storage Corsair MP600 Core 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €303.99 @ Alternate Belgium
Video Card Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card €2379.95 @ Tones.be
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case €96.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €126.95 @ Megekko
Case Fan Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack €39.95 @ Bytes At Work
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €4046.47
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-20 16:04 CEST+0200  

 

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16 minutes ago, Mattice said:

Hi all, I'm currently making a new build for a design and rendering workstation. I would like to cut down the costs a bit since I'll need to get my hands on an overpriced RTX 3090 because of the VRAM that's needed for my renders... I will need a 2TB SSD, 64gb of RAM (for simulations) and a great high-core count processor, preferably Ryzen 9. I just want the system to be quiet and well balanced in performance. I do not plan on doing any overclocking, it needs to be stable.

 

Budget (including currency): 3000 euro ($3600), the less the better

Country: Belgium

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Generative design, procedural modelling & regular CAD modelling, GPU based rendering, parametric design, VFX (Keyshot (GPU), Unreal Engine, Rhino, heavy Grasshopper scripts, Houdini, Maya, Siemens NX, Zbrush,...)

 

CPU:

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($499.99 @ Best Buy) 
CPU Cooler:

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard:

Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory:

G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($344.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage:

Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($307.75 @ Amazon) 
Video Card:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Founders Edition Video Card  ($2100.00 - hopefully a lot less....) 
Power Supply:

Corsair AX 850 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($265.98 @ Newegg) 
Case:

Dune Pro Case ($249.00)


Total: $4087.69

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qnMd2V

 

Any suggestions to cut down on costs somewhere? Maybe the cooler, memory, PSU,...

 

 

 

Well, cost cutting eh?

1. Grab that 3090 at MSRP when stock stabilizes. Thatll cut you 600$ off the bat.

2. Step down to Corsair RM Series or switch to something like Super Flower Leadex Gold or Seasonic Focus series. Thatll dock you about 165$ less, but i would spend those saving on getting 850W PSU to avoid any power consumption spikes from the 3090 (some reported the latest drivers and VBIOS fixed it though)

3. Step down the SSD. If you only need PCIE SSD, you can step down to something like Mushkin Pilot-E or PNY CS2130. Thats 92$ savings.

4. Grab a different AIO. A lot of AIO watercooler designs are the same framework designed by Asetek, with the only difference being in overall quality of the material. The sky is the limit on this one, but ML240L from Cooler Master is the cheapest right now. 50$ saved.

5. Step down to B550. The difference between B550 and X570 quality wise is better connectivity and upgrade paths, so unless you need a lot more M.2 slot than 1, or you gonna add more 1/4x/8x expansion cards down the line, downgrading it will be fine. 120$ saving, but i would use said saving to get extra USB slots.

6. As a lot of people say, get a less overpriced case. Anything goes frankly with something like 5000DX can give you about 120$ saving.

 

So with all that in mind:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $499.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $49.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $139.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $344.99 @ Newegg
Storage PNY CS2130 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $229.99 @ Amazon
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Founders Edition Video Card $1499.99
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $129.99 @ Newegg Sellers
Custom Dune Pro Case $249.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $3168.93
  Mail-in rebates -$25.00
  Total $3143.93
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-20 10:06 EDT-0400  

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor $550.00
CPU Cooler ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $134.99 @ Amazon
Thermal Compound Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste $8.92 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $204.20 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $377.99 @ Newegg
Storage Mushkin Pilot-E 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $214.99 @ Newegg
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB Founders Edition Video Card $1550.00
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500P Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case $139.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $229.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $3431.06
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $3411.06
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-20 10:05 EDT-0400  

 here is better and you still have 200$ to spend on storage or ram or MB or gpu whatever you want and the only problem that remain is the gpu if you can get one  

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Thanks for all the suggestions! Very helpful. I can wait until July or August to start my build so I definitely have some time to wait for the price of the RTX 3090 to go down. Some do say stock won't improve by then and that prices could get even higher so I wasn't sure if I should look to buy one earlier for a decent price...

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Step up on the psu front. Spend an extra 100 bucks for a 1000w supply

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4 minutes ago, WolframaticAlpha said:

Step up on the psu front. Spend an extra 100 bucks for a 1000w supply

not needed

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