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Rtx 3070 vs Rx 6800

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SO a couple months ago I purchased an Rx 6800 and have been using it in my gaming rig with pretty decent satisfaction. I now just purchased an rtx 3070 and I am trying to decide between the two since I am going to sell the other to my roommate. Looking for which one is the smarter choice for gaming since I know that the rx 6800 does tend to get better performance but the 3070 has features like DLSS and ray tracing that might make it pull out ahead. Does anyone have any experience with both or any insight on which one I should go with? Thanks in advance!

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Each card has its strengths and its weaknesses, and there will be plenty of people who will say "RX 6800 16GB of VRAM instead of 8GB, and the 3070 has ray-tracing and DLSS".

But since you have both cards, why not try each one out and see how you like it?

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What kind of monitor are you using? Is it G-Sync? Freesync? Resolution and refresh rate? Also what CPU are you pairing it with?

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5 minutes ago, GalacticRuler said:

What kind of monitor are you using? Is it G-Sync? Freesync? Resolution and refresh rate? Also what CPU are you pairing it with?

I'm currently using an Asus monitor that is 1080p 144hz refresh rate. It has support for G-sync not freesync but I usually leave those off just because of the frame restriction in games like cod where I need frames more. And the CPU I have right now is a Ryzen 5 3600. 

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8 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Each card has its strengths and its weaknesses, and there will be plenty of people who will say "RX 6800 16GB of VRAM instead of 8GB, and the 3070 has ray-tracing and DLSS".

But since you have both cards, why not try each one out and see how you like it?

Yeah that was kind of my thoughts as well because it seems kind of back and forth like maybe Nvidia has better featurs but AMD has some better specs and they just kinda trade blows. just making sure I wasn't overlooking some crazy flaw one of them had or something. 

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You don't need more than 8GB of VRAM, especially at 1440p, and neither card is really capable of native 4K, except in titles that wouldn't need more VRAM anyways. So that's a wash.

 

If you do any streaming, Nvidia wins hands down. Features like NVENC, RTX Voice, Broadcast, etc. AMD has no answer for.

 

DLSS is a huge win for Nvidia. AMD has its own version coming soon in FidelityFX Super Resolution, but that's a big dice roll. It may not be good or even usable at first. DLSS 1.0 was hot garbage as well. Even then, who knows if it will actually be able to ever match DLSS. As far as I'm aware, it's known to not be an AI driven solution, like Nvidia's.

 

Ray tracing for RDNA2 on the PC is craptastic. There's some hope for improvement, as it's pretty much fine on the next gen consoles. However, that's because there's APIs available there to tweak the ray tracing that have not been made available to PC, for some unknown reason. If or when PC devs get access to the same APIs, the situation may improve. Regardless, though, it's still no match for Nvidia's dedicated tensor cores.

 

For pure raster performance, the 6800XT might slightly edge out the 3070, but the 3070 is superior in virtually every other way. On the whole, I'd say keep the 3070.

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1 hour ago, Chris Pratt said:

For pure raster performance, the 6800XT might slightly edge out the 3070, but the 3070 is superior in virtually every other way. On the whole, I'd say keep the 3070.

I think you'd either mistyped RX 6800 XT instead of RX 6800, or is misinformed, or bending the performance to suit your bias, I prefer to think it's the former. The RTX 3070 cannot compete against the RX 6800, losing in almost all the games tested (see GN and HUB reviews), the RX 6800 is mostly better at rasterized games (especially at 1440P) although they are a few outliers.

 

Yes, agreed that RT is where RTX 3070 trumps the RX 6800, as well as games with DLSS (and productivity features), so if these are 'must haves' for the OP, then go for the RTX 3070.

 

 

 

As for pricing, well depends on how much the OP had gotten his cards at. In my neck of the woods, an RTX 3070 is generally price close to to higher than the RX 6800 price. Now as to which to keep, it's up to OP and the games and features he wishes to have.

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53 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

I think you'd either mistyped RX 6800 XT instead of RX 6800, or is misinformed, or bending the performance to suit your bias, I prefer to think it's the former. The RTX 3070 cannot compete against the RX 6800, losing in almost all the games tested (see GN and HUB reviews), the RX 6800 is mostly better at rasterized games (especially at 1440P) although they are a few outliers.

 

Yes, agreed that RT is where RTX 3070 trumps the RX 6800, as well as games with DLSS (and productivity features), so if these are 'must haves' for the OP, then go for the RTX 3070.

 

 

 

As for pricing, well depends on how much the OP had gotten his cards at. In my neck of the woods, an RTX 3070 is generally price close to to higher than the RX 6800 price. Now as to which to keep, it's up to OP and the games and features he wishes to have.

I did mean 6800. Too used to XTs after AMD model names. Other than that, I don't know what your on about. I said it would perform better in raster. However, the difference is no so great that it makes up for all the other features you're leaving on the table. Now, if the OP has no designs on streaming ever, couldn't give two flips about ray tracing, and doesn't mind losing out on the flexibility DLSS offers, then we're at a level playing field and the 6800 wins. It's a lot to give up in trade otherwise. That's my point.

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5 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

I did mean 6800. Too used to XTs after AMD model names. Other than that, I don't know what your on about. I said it would perform better in raster. However, the difference is no so great that it makes up for all the other features you're leaving on the table. Now, if the OP has no designs on streaming ever, couldn't give two flips about ray tracing, and doesn't mind losing out on the flexibility DLSS offers, then we're at a level playing field and the 6800 wins. It's a lot to give up in trade otherwise. That's my point.

Eh? So you took offense? I ain't gonna apologize because I didn't know your state of mind, whether that oversight was intentional or not, how do I know?! I did say I'd believe or prefer to believe it was an oversight. Regardless, the RX 6800 trumps the RTX 3070 in some games by a fair margin (if you'd bothered to watch the YT links I'd provided), but hey, it's up to you. You'd be glad to learn you're on my ignore list🙄 Kindly return the favor, thanks!

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