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How to make 1440p look better on 4K Monitor?

TheJedi

Hey guys, I've tried playing Rocket League at 4K on my monitor but it's not a great experience, as in I get frame drops a lot in fullscreen.

 

So I'm trying 1440p but it looks blurry, u know anyway I can get it to look a bit better?

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change downscaling settings in graphics card settings?

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You can apply sharpening, if it's offered via game and/or through your GPUs settings. It's still not going to look great, but it will be not quite as blurry.

 

This is one of the downsides of having a 4K monitor. You really need to be able to feed it 4K. Computer monitors are not like TVs and don't really have any built-in upscaling features.

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18 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

You can apply sharpening, if it's offered via game and/or through your GPUs settings. It's still not going to look great, but it will be not quite as blurry.

 

This is one of the downsides of having a 4K monitor. You really need to be able to feed it 4K. Computer monitors are not like TVs and don't really have any built-in upscaling features.

Well I can push 4K to it. The actual game doesn't run well with it though. At least in Fullscreen, in Borderless it's fine

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50 minutes ago, TheJedi said:

Well I can push 4K to it. The actual game doesn't run well with it though. At least in Fullscreen, in Borderless it's fine

Yeah. I just meant 4K is obviously harder to pull off than 1440p or 1080p. If your system is capable of 4K, but maybe not always at 60 FPS or with ultra settings, you're pretty much stuck. Having only a 1440p monitor gives you a lot more play room. It's all trade-offs.

 

 

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1440p windowed or 4k with better gpu, other than that it'll look blurry (i play some games on 1440p windowed but the monitor's always on native)

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On 4/12/2021 at 10:48 PM, gloege said:

are you using a tv for a monitor

No, 4K monitor

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On 4/17/2021 at 4:11 PM, TheJedi said:

No, 4K monitor

what gpu do you rock

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on a 4k display, 1080p scales perfectly 4:1 as in a 1080p pixel scales perfectly to a square of 4, 4k pixels.
you could say that 4k is Quad 1080p (QFHD)

however 1440p is 4x 720p, in the exact same fashion. (QHD)

therefore 1080p will scale better to 4k than 1440p will.

i dont play rocket league, but are you able to set resolution of 4k with render resolution of 50% (1080p)?

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On 4/19/2021 at 3:13 AM, gloege said:

what gpu do you rock

3060 Ti

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On 4/19/2021 at 9:30 AM, Mr.Briggs said:

on a 4k display, 1080p scales perfectly 4:1 as in a 1080p pixel scales perfectly to a square of 4, 4k pixels.
you could say that 4k is Quad 1080p (QFHD)

however 1440p is 4x 720p, in the exact same fashion. (QHD)

therefore 1080p will scale better to 4k than 1440p will.

i dont play rocket league, but are you able to set resolution of 4k with render resolution of 50% (1080p)?

No u can only set resolution. Video settings aren't very customisable

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4 minutes ago, TheJedi said:

No u can only set resolution. Video settings aren't very customisable

In Nvidia control panel, you can change scaling mode, you can force GPU Scaling, which means instead of sending 1440p to your monitor, then it scales it to 4k.
with GPU Scaling, the gpu will rescale the pixels from 1440 to 4k. this has a small cost of gpu usage, but the per-pixel fidelity on screen should improve.
your GPU also has an 'integer scaler' which is designed to scale resolutions (its an option in NCP) apparently its best used on pixel-art games, but is for scaling 4:1 pixel ratios, e.g. 1080p to 4k

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11 hours ago, Mr.Briggs said:

In Nvidia control panel, you can change scaling mode, you can force GPU Scaling, which means instead of sending 1440p to your monitor, then it scales it to 4k.
with GPU Scaling, the gpu will rescale the pixels from 1440 to 4k. this has a small cost of gpu usage, but the per-pixel fidelity on screen should improve.
your GPU also has an 'integer scaler' which is designed to scale resolutions (its an option in NCP) apparently its best used on pixel-art games, but is for scaling 4:1 pixel ratios, e.g. 1080p to 4k

okay so how can i do this?

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Just now, Mr.Briggs said:

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Wouldn't this affect all games?

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1 hour ago, TheJedi said:

Wouldn't this affect all games?

only games you run at less than native res will be scaled

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6 hours ago, Mr.Briggs said:

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Okay so i've switched GPU on and override. What should the res be? 4K

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11 minutes ago, TheJedi said:

Okay so i've switched GPU on and override. What should the res be? 4K

the res there is just for preview.

Desktop res/game res is where this should come into play

test in game using 1440p (game res, leave desktop at 4k), and compare with either GPU/Display scaling to see if you can notice a difference.

if your monitor has a capable scaler, you should see no difference when using the GPU for scaling.
if you do notice a difference in sharpness/pixel crawl, then go with the better looking one, performance permitting.

note that an external capture can see the difference but an internal capture cant.
e.g. a screenshot will look the same either way but a capture card can see the difference

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34 minutes ago, Mr.Briggs said:

the res there is just for preview.

Desktop res/game res is where this should come into play

test in game using 1440p (game res, leave desktop at 4k), and compare with either GPU/Display scaling to see if you can notice a difference.

if your monitor has a capable scaler, you should see no difference when using the GPU for scaling.
if you do notice a difference in sharpness/pixel crawl, then go with the better looking one, performance permitting.

note that an external capture can see the difference but an internal capture cant.
e.g. a screenshot will look the same either way but a capture card can see the difference

full screen or aspect ratio?

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3 minutes ago, TheJedi said:

full screen or aspect ratio?

Aspect ratio.

Fullscreen will warp other aspect ratios to fill your screen, e.g. 1024x768 (4:3) would be fullscreen (16:9), with stretching of the image.

aspect ratio will maintain the output res' aspect ratio, e.g. 1024x768 (4:3) will be filled to the top and bottom edges, with black bars at left and right sides, maintaining image scale.

largely irrelevant if only ever using 16:9 ratios, e.g. 1080p, 2560x1440, 4k

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