R5 3600 vs. i5 10600KF w/ RTX3060

[Hudzell]

Guys, I'm caught between two ready-made pc's
In the future, I aim to play games with rtx 3060 while connecting 3-4 cards with the new psu and riser and using it for mining purposes.
but I know that r5 3600 is making a bottleneck with rtx 3060. Other system has 5 slots for the graphics card (with riser) if I don't know wrong
the other pc has 3 slots but the i5 has a 10600KF processor
I do not plan to change the motherboard in the future, I will buy a system and use it for a long time.

 

Long story short Is the r5 3600 + a motherboard system with 5 card slots?
Or the i5 10600KF + a system with 3 card slots motherboard better?

 

Note : systems are taken as a whole, I do not collect it myself. I can only choose one

My english may be bad, sorry

System 1 :

R5 3600 MPK

ASUS TUF B450-PLUS GAMING 4400MHz (OC)

ASUS Geforce TUF RTX 3060

HYPERX 16GB (2x8GB) Fury RGB 3200 MHz CL16 DDR4 Dual Kit Ram

SANDISK Ultra 3D 500 GB NVMe M.2 SSD (2400 Read / 1750 Write) SSD

ASUS TUF GAMING GT301 RGB Tempered Glass USB 3.2 Mid Tower Case

ASUS TUF GAMING 650B 650W 80+ Bronze PSU 

 

System 2 :

 

i5 10600KF 

ASUS PRIME B460M-K 2933 MHz

ASUS Geforce TUF RTX 3060

XPG 16 GB (2x8) Gammix D30 Red 3000 MHz CL16 DDR4 Dual Kit Ram

SANDISK Ultra 3D 500 GB NVMe M.2 SSD (2400 Read / 1750 Write) SSD

XIGMATEK APACHE PLUS 120mm RGB CPU Cooler

ASUS TUF GAMING GT301 RGB Tempered Glass USB 3.2 Mid Tower Case

CORSAIR CV650 650W 80+ Bronze PSU

 

 

[SupaKomputa]

7 minutes ago, Hudzell said:

but I know that r5 3600 is making a bottleneck with rtx 3060

where do you get this idea?

for the same price 3600 is a no brainer.

[SupaKomputa]

1 minute ago, djnjd09 said:

The 10600KF is more powerful, Go for the 10600KF.

UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 vs Intel Core i5-10600KF

Userbenchmark are heavily intel optimize, not a fair one.

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

where do you get this idea?

for the same price 3600 is a no brainer.

Disagree, the 10600KF is better in a lot of ways, especially gaming.

Although when paired with a non-OC mobo, I'd take the 3600 probably.

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

paired with a non-OC mobo, I'd take the 3600 probably.

This is what i'm talking about.

[Moonzy]

both cpu are fine for 3060

 

so i would pick the board with most accessible PCIE slots, if mining is on the table

but the 3060 isnt a great mining gpu due to the restrictions

[Mister Woof]

6 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

This is what i'm talking about.

Well even stock for stock, the 10600K is a faster gaming CPU. It's generally still faster at gaming than all 3rd generation Ryzen CPUs. When overclocked the gulf is just wider. 

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3592-intel-i5-10600k-cpu-review-benchmarks-ryzen-5-3600-et-al

 

It really wasn't until the 5000 series when AMD reached actual parity/superiority to Intel in gaming.

 

3rd gen Ryzen struggled even against 8th gen. People jumped on the AMD bandwagon hard - they're fine chips and were especially good when they were less expensive. But they were never better.

 

The opposite is true right now when considering that 3rd gen Ryzen chips cost more than 10th gen Intel, and that Ryzen 5000 series performs better than 10/11th gen Intel but costs more.

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

When overclocked the gulf is just wider.

Well again with that motherboard you can't.

But you can oc the 3600 and use higher speed memory to reach parity or a little gain.

[Hudzell]

6 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

where do you get this idea?

for the same price 3600 is a no brainer.

I already writed this versus to few other forums and generally i got messages like "r5 3600 doing bottleneck like %10-20 percent if you don't go to 1440p resolution"

and the prices are same, just parts different.

5 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

both cpu are fine for 3060

 

so i would pick the board with most accessible PCIE slots, if mining is on the table

but the 3060 isnt a great mining gpu due to the restrictions

I'll use 1 rtx 3060 and few gpu with no restrictions 

also i'll use mining unlocked driver for rtx 3060

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Well again with that motherboard you can't.

But you can oc the 3600 and use higher speed memory to reach parity or a little gain.

3600 doesn't gain much from overclocking and even if you can, it won't catch up to the stock 10600k.

 

But when you factor gimped memory speeds on Intel's stupid old B-series platforms, the differences are so small it doesn't matter. At least with the B450 you can throw a 5000 series on there later. So that's why I recommended the 3600 in this comparison.

 

But there is a lot of bandwagon "3600 is better" when especially in this market with it being more expensive, it just isn't. In an apples to apples comparison, the 10600k is objectively the better gaming CPU. It's just that this specific case isn't apples to apples.

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, Hudzell said:

i'll use mining unlocked driver for rtx 3060

it's a beta driver so...

i'm having some weird issues with it

[Hudzell]

Just now, Moonzy said:

it's a beta driver so...

i'm having some weird issues with it

is these issues critical ?

What kind of issues are you talking about? 

[Moonzy]

Just now, Hudzell said:

is these issues critical ?

What kind of issues are you talking about? 

entire pc is laggy while playing MHW

i havent tried to diagnose it yet so i cant tell if it's the driver, or the 3060 being funny

 

because my 2nd pc is using the same driver but a 3070, no such issues

[SupaKomputa]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

At least with the B450 you can throw a 5000 series on there later. So that's why I recommended the 3600 in this comparison.

I agree on you with this. B450 is more flexible.

 

[Mister Woof]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

I agree on you with this. B450 is more flexible.

 

But then at this point, with the 5600x already available, I question the decision to even get the 3600 to begin with. 

Budgets exist though, so I suppose I can't argue that. But if it were me and I was considering upgrading, I'd just get the 5600x to start.

[SupaKomputa]

37 minutes ago, Hudzell said:

I will buy a system and use it for a long time

 

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I'd just get the 5600x to start

make sense.

[xg32]

44 minutes ago, Hudzell said:

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the r5 3600 is a bottleneck with a 3060, but not as much as you think, it's like 5%~ and a 10600kf paired with a b460 board is just a tragedy, ask for other options, i wouldn't get either of these systems.

 

a switch to a 11400 would be the dream, shouldnt even cost extra. A motherboard swap is not worth it in most scenarios

 

If i had to pick one, it'd be the r5 3600 system, maybe 5900x/5950x will be cheap in the future, and even with an older board a power limit is simple enough.