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How long ago did you switch and how do you like it so far?

 

I'm looking into that plunge.  Why?

I can't buy any gpu unless I'm willing to get r*ped by a scalper.

Less desktop space.

I know they can't touch a desktop in performance but

Gaming laptops are becoming a better deal day after day.

 

I'm currently looking at an MSI:

10th gen i7

RTX 2070 non mq

16gb ddr4

512gb m.2

1tb hdd

144hz screen

 

$1,200

 

I know for $1,200 I could probably build the desktop equivalent with an RTX 3060.  But it doesn't look like I'll be able to grab one at msrp until fall this year.  At least.

 

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Yeah that will work too, plug an external monitor and you're done.

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5 minutes ago, Doug_Dangger said:

Gaming laptops are becoming a better deal day after day.

I've yet to see a "gaming" laptop that really was ever a deal. 

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Which msi? They have a lot of models that struggle due to cooling problems and thus deliver a pretty poor gaming experience.

 

As in laptop gaming did that in 2015. Liked it a lot being able to just go. Now that I am more stationary I am mainly on a desktop but miss my laptop now that it broke a couple months ago and am buying a new one soon as I'm still deciding which 3000 series laptop I want to buy.

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3 years ago because moving a heavy ATX build over 10,000km away into the dorm of University is unrealistic.

 

It's nice that the monitor has better quality than my old TN stuff, but performance has worsened (since it's 2600k and GTX1070 to 8750H and GTX1060) and dust degrades its cooling way faster (on top of already poor cooling to begin with, CPU always thermal throttles when the GPU is also under high load). I also don't like software limitations on laptops, I have to be super careful about software updates because a lot of it requires driver and BIOS update from HP. As you know, Windows is an absolute b**** when it comes to installing updates without user's consent.

 

10 minutes ago, Doug_Dangger said:

I'm currently looking at an MSI:

On laptops, knowing the exact model matters. Not just "some MSI", that's far from enough.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, emosun said:

I've yet to see a "gaming" laptop that really was ever a deal. 

You can get a gaming laptop with a 10th gen i5, GTX 1650, 17" 120hz ips panel, 8gb ram, 512m.2 for as little as around $750.

Not too long ago you could barely get a laptop with those trashy "M" gpus for a grand.  lol

 

With today's gpu crisis you'd be lucky to snag a GTX 1650 for $500.

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The primary advantage of a laptop is the portability. If you're not leveraging that advantage, I do not recommend a laptop instead of a desktop. Waiting until desktop parts are reasonably priced is recommended.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

 

On laptops, knowing the exact model matters. Not just "some MSI", that's far from enough.

MSI GE75 Raider

i7 10750h

2070 non max q

512m.2

2tb platter

17" 144hz

 

What do you think?

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10 minutes ago, Doug_Dangger said:

MSI GE75 Raider

i7 10750h

2070 non max q

512m.2

2tb platter

17" 144hz

 

What do you think?

https://www.techspot.com/review/1862-msi-ge75-raider/

 

It's nice on performance and thermals, but is also louder than average and battery life is hardly good. Your choice then.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Unless you spend an inordinate amount of money on a mega chungus gaming laptop, kiss the following things goodbye:

 

Gsync (though you can still use GSync with an external Gsync capable monitor)

Decent temps (expect both CPU and GPU to be around 80, sometimes 90 depending on how thin the laptop is)

Any BIOS control

Any semblance of silence while gaming, hope you like headphones

Screen real estate

Mech keyboard

Desktop level performance (X60 chips will be the closest you will get to desktop level performance, and it will decline from there with X70 and X80 chips primarily because of power and temperature limitations. Mobile CPUs are also partially to blame.)

 

I hate laptops if that wasn't already clear. I had to switch to a laptop for a little over a year when I moved and I was miserable the entire time. IMO you are making a rash decision and need to have patience. Laptops depreciate very quickly, if you buy one to use for a little while before you get a real build going, you will lose a lot of money. If you intend to use it for several years, you will have a subpar experience AND lose a lot of money. In my experience laptops always perform worse than you think they will. I bought a laptop with a 9750H and a 2070, and it was barely better than my 5 year old desktop that was running a 980Ti and 4790K.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Doug_Dangger said:

You can get a gaming laptop with a 10th gen i5, GTX 1650, 17" 120hz ips panel, 8gb ram, 512m.2 for as little as around $750.

Not too long ago you could barely get a laptop with those trashy "M" gpus for a grand.  lol

 

With today's gpu crisis you'd be lucky to snag a GTX 1650 for $500.

I guess I didnt consider the current gpu market as id never buy hardware during a downturn that made bad hardware seem as if it were good. 

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