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frozensun
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Damn,my friends,

I dunno what was I thinking routing the cable like this way last year,over my RAM memory...probably didn't think that RAM will heat too.

Luckly PC wasn't working that much for a year but enough to do this tiny damage.

Today I check and see this is not right and there (marked in red) I could see a tiny damage on that place marked with blue arrow,and as seen on pic,one wire lost isolation.

I hope I noticed at the perfect time,and I will correct this tomorrow,but I blame myself how stupid was I routing the cable like this.

Obviously cable must go over RAM memory,but not touching it,but it is hard to route the cable without touching memory modules in any way.

I checked what cable is this and it goes to connectors marked 1 and 2 probably for controlling PWM of fans.

I hope this won't be an issue in the future,these cables are so tiny it's impossible to solder them.

I marked with blue,the damage,maybe it looks like light glare or really the isolation was damaged by the heat of RAM,or I'm overexaggerating this.

Tomorrow will have day light,and check better with flashlight,but so far everything works okay.

I hope I noticed this as right time...I'm so sad,you know guys I have bad OCD,and what I did made me so sad.

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Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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I would not call that "burnt". If your ram is heating so much that it can deform plastic, you have bigger problems than that slightly scuffed cable. That cable looks like it was caught on something and was peeled slightly. 

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I dont see RAM heating it up at all.  Maybe the LED?  Ive seen LEDs melt some plastics (I.E. cheaper LED strips etc)

 

At least, I wouldnt concern myself with any PC insulated wire touching RAM.  I could be wrong though.  I bet it was the LED (if in fact it was melted by the LED).  Could it be possible that the pump vibrated such a tiny amount that, over time, it was rubbed off?  Could be reaching with that question

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The wires had conntact with head spreader on RAM...now I'm not sure if heated RAM can burn isolation on wire...

The RAM temperature is hmm maybe 45-50 C not sure...but this is RGB RAM.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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Tidy cables are happy cables. I didn't think an LED could get that warm. I have to question the effectiveness of the cooling system in your chassis. I only have one pair of RGB ram, but both pairs together are sitting at 24c right now overclocked and overvolted. Not @ load though.. that is 30c.

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6 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I dont see RAM heating it up at all.  Maybe the LED?  Ive seen LEDs melt some plastics (I.E. cheaper LED strips etc)

 

At least, I wouldnt concern myself with any PC insulated wire touching RAM.  I could be wrong though.  I bet it was the LED (if in fact it was melted by the LED).  Could it be possible that the pump vibrated such a tiny amount that, over time, it was rubbed off?  Could be reaching with that question

just like all electrical components,RAM heats up too.if you have temp sensors on good quality RAM,it can report temp on chips.

I think my goes to around 40 C,but not sure if that temp can melt wire isolation.what ever happened there is that tiny damage,and I think RAM is to blame...and me ofc.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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Looks like it was possibly just rubbing on the ram and or it's dust from the computer, as I am seeing dust build up in the pictures. It doesn't look like melting plastic from the pictures. That's insulated wire either way it should be fine. But if you're really worried about it use a zip tie or something and move it away from the ram so it's not touching.

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3 minutes ago, frozensun said:

just like all electrical components,RAM heats up too.if you have temp sensors on good quality RAM,it can report temp on chips.

I think my goes to around 40 C,but not sure if that temp can melt wire isolation.what ever happened there is that tiny damage,and I think RAM is to blame...and me ofc.

I understand.  Still not hot enough to melt wire insulation.  If there is damage it was either like that, or rub.

 

However LED's can get very hot, up to 100c - but the insulated wires we use can take up to 200C+ and they dont melt, they char.  (quick googling around)

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3 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Looks like it was possibly just rubbing on the ram and or it's dust from the computer, as I am seeing dust build up in the pictures. It doesn't look like melting plastic from the pictures. That's insulated wire either way it should be fine. But if you're really worried about it use a zip tie or something and move it away from the ram so it's not touching.

yep I know,will do it tomorrow,but in any way that wire must go over memory modules,can't route the wires over VRM heatsink.

Maybe it is dust who knows,it's late here and dark.

Could be just rubbing the heatsink on modules.

I will check tomorrow on daily light.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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13 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I understand.  Still not hot enough to melt wire insulation.  If there is damage it was either like that, or rub.

 

However LED's can get very hot, up to 100c - but the insulated wires we use can take up to 200C+ and they dont melt, they char.  (quick googling around)

On picture this look liek melted,and dust isn't for sure....so if insulation is not melted then I dunno what the hell is it...

Look at the other wires...marked with red.

If you say so bro,that I don't have to worry about it.

In any way I will use zip ties in other way and try to route the wires so they don't touch RAM modules.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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If this is not the damage of the cable insulation then I dunno what the hell is it (marked in red).

Hope I noticed at right time..

Well I did cable management, yeah it's messy but what the hell,at least everything works so far...

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Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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