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Pre built gaming Pc configuration help

Budget (including currency): around £2,000

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: cinematic and some city planner / strategy games eg assassins creed, cyberpunk, hitman 3, Anno, Civilization, minecraft and some GTA RP

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Currently have a laptop I used at university but it doesn't really work for gaming other than very low settings and barely playable FPS so this will be a big upgrade.

I have that 4K smart monitor LTT recently showed off from Samsung and will likely get another monitor of some kind in the future, I have a wireless mouse, USB headset, and will be able get a keyboard without effecting my budget so that's all good.

current build I'm looking at is based on this one here Custom Hypernova (AMD-Based) - Fierce PC

options looking at:

  • Fierce PC Lumina ARGB Gaming PC Case with "Cyberpunk" Armour
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8GHz (4.7GHz Turbo) 8-Core CPU
  • Game Max Ice Chill 120mm ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Graphics Card
  • Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3600MHz DDR4 Memory Kit
  • 250GB Seagate BarraCuda 510 M.2 SSD  
  • 240GB WD Green 2.5" SSD  
  • 1TB Seagate BarraCuda Hard Drive  
  • ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F Gaming Motherboard
  • Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
  • ASUS PCE-AC88 3100Mbps Wireless PCIe Adapter
  • Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit

was hoping this would be suitable to playing for 4k 60fps and be suitable for long term upgradeability.

wireless card is there as my only ethernet connection is through a powerline kit and thought this would be a good back up although if the difference it would make compared to either the on board wifi or the powerline kit isn't significant then would remove it to save some money on the initial build.

the case is part of the reason I chose this company but if the price is right elsewhere would be willing to forego it to save some money.

was thinking that the NVME would be for games/steam and the SATA for windows with the HDD for dumping everything else and would upgrade to higher capacities or whatever as needed.

thanks for any help.

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10 minutes ago, plainlazy95 said:

be suitable for long term upgradeability.

not with that cooler and case. 

other options seem fine like the psu and motherboard.

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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13 minutes ago, plainlazy95 said:

Game Max Ice Chill 120mm ARGB AIO Liquid Cooler

not enough to cool a 5800x. you want  a big air cooler or a 280/360mm aio

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14 minutes ago, plainlazy95 said:
  • 250GB Seagate BarraCuda 510 M.2 SSD  
  • 240GB WD Green 2.5" SSD  

also not sure why you're going for this config, rather than just getting one 500gb or 1tb nvme drive

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1 minute ago, plainlazy95 said:

whats the issue with the case and cooler?

120mm coolers are pretty bad adn that bad airflow case wont help it.

 

5800x is already a hot chip, 120mm aio is not enough. big aircoolers are much better choice

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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go with this instead

  • CoolerMaster H500 ARGB Gaming PC Case
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8GHz (4.7GHz Turbo) 8-Core CPU
  • Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB AIO CPU Cooler
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Graphics Card
  • Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3600MHz DDR4 Memory Kit
  • 500GB Seagate BarraCuda 510 M.2 SSD  
  • 1TB Seagate BarraCuda Hard Drive  
  • ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Motherboard
  • Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
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thanks for the information had no real idea what I was choosing so just went with a bit of everything

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A prebuilt seems like a good idea...at first. And it is if you're willing to buy an RTX 3080 and sell everything else.

 

However, the fact is that a prebuilt is extremely expensive for what it offers. In every case I noticed it's leagues better to buy components yourself separately. If you reach the same value as the prebuilt your components will smash the prebuilt's in sheer quality.

 

 

This build would work wonders at about 2000$ (1450~ pounds) when prices for the GPU become normal.

 

You don't need to spend much right now for future upgradeability because you won't have any. Zen 4 "Raphael" will use a different socket next year and will come with large improvements over Zen 3. So at best you can buy Zen 3 right now and sell it next year for upgrading to Zen 4.

 

The Cooler should sustain the CPU overclocked quite well, while the motherboard is an excellent overclocker recommended by Buildozer. The RAM setup is with 4 sticks so you can gain the performance uplift of a dual-rank setup while not overspending on the RAM sticks. The Adata m.2 SSD is fast enough for gaming and quite cheap for what it offers especially compared to Intel.

 

The PSU is high-quality and is unlikely to break any time soon, the only other PSU of higher quality is the ROG Thor version, both recommended by PSUCultists.

 

Personally I'm not so sure about the Case, it should be good. The Thermal Compound is of excellent quality. The real problem is it will be very difficult to find a GPU this year.

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15 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

go with this instead

  • CoolerMaster H500 ARGB Gaming PC Case
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8GHz (4.7GHz Turbo) 8-Core CPU
  • Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB AIO CPU Cooler
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Graphics Card
  • Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3600MHz DDR4 Memory Kit
  • 500GB Seagate BarraCuda 510 M.2 SSD  
  • 1TB Seagate BarraCuda Hard Drive  
  • ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Motherboard
  • Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply

while I think I understand choice of components your suggesting it might be too much to stretch my budget for it so to bring the price down slightly would you drop the CPU or GPU down to help and would that change the recommendations any?

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1 hour ago, plainlazy95 said:

while I think I understand choice of components your suggesting it might be too much to stretch my budget for it so to bring the price down slightly would you drop the CPU or GPU down to help and would that change the recommendations any?

go with this then. and also skip the windows key and get one from ebay.

  • CoolerMaster H500 ARGB Gaming PC Case
  • AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7GHz (4.6GHz Turbo) Hex-Core CPU
  • Corsair H100x 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Graphics Card
  • Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3600MHz DDR4 Memory Kit
  • 500GB Seagate BarraCuda 510 M.2 SSD  
  • 1TB Seagate BarraCuda Hard Drive  
  • MSI B550-A Pro Motherboard
  • Corsair TX850M 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
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