Would it be worth using i9 11900k with 3090 for pci 4.0 instead of 10900k?

[bobzen]

So im currently buying parts for my new pc and i already ordered my asus strix 3090 OC and was going to buy the intel i9 10900k cpu which only supports pci 3.0 but i just noticed that the i9 11900k that does 4.0 will be released the 30th this month

So my question is the following

Would it even be worth it going for the 11900k for the pci 4.0 when using a 3090 or is 3.0 fine?

People says the 11900k is worse in gaming compared to the 10900k but i was wondering if using a 3090 which supports pci 4.0 would make a difference in gaming when actually utilizing the pci 4.0 instead of 3.0 and might get better frames than the 10900k because of using 4.0 instead of 3.0?

 

any thoughts?  

 

[WhitetailAni]

Is there any reason you have to use Intel compared to AMD?
AMD 3rd and 5th gen support PCIe 4.0, and a Ryzen 9 5900X has 2 more cores than a 10900K and 4 more cores than an 11900K.

[thepoorgamer]

Why are you going Intel in the first place? A 5900x/5800x would deliver better gameing and productivity profomance. 

[Eigenvektor]

33 minutes ago, bobzen said:

People says the 11900k is worse in gaming compared to the 10900k but i was wondering if using a 3090 which supports pci 4.0 would make a difference in gaming when actually utilizing the pci 4.0 instead of 3.0 and might get better frames than the 10900k because of using 4.0 instead of 3.0?

PCIe 4.0 isn't really worth it for gaming in terms of GPU performance.

 

This benchmark is for the 3080, but you can see that PCIe 4.0 vs 3.0 makes very little difference in most games: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-pci-express-scaling/

 

If you have a ton of data that you're copying from one PCIe 4.0 NVMe to another NVMe all day long, then it is probably worth it (or e.g. doing productive work that requires loading tons of stuff from the disk all the time)

[bobzen]

20 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

PCIe 4.0 isn't really worth it for gaming in terms of GPU performance.

 

This benchmark is for the 3080, but you can see that PCIe 4.0 vs 3.0 makes very little difference in most games: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-pci-express-scaling/

 

If you have a ton of data that you're copying from one PCIe 4.0 NVMe to another NVMe all day long, then it is probably worth it (or e.g. doing productive work that requires loading tons of stuff from the disk all the time)

Ah i see. So i would get better performance in gaming if i pick the 10900k instead of the 11900k cpu?  

40 minutes ago, thepoorgamer said:

Why are you going Intel in the first place? A 5900x/5800x would deliver better gameing and productivity profomance. 

already bought intel MB which is the maximus xiii hero  

[Eigenvektor]

3 minutes ago, bobzen said:

Ah i see. So i would get better performance in gaming if i pick the 10900k instead of the 11900k cpu?

I don't know. Afaik we don't have anything other than "leaked benchmarks" and a ton of confusion because the 10700K went on sale too early. Supposedly the 11900K is faster than the 10900K (which I also what I'd expect), but at this point this is still rumor level information.

[bobzen]

7 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

I don't know. Afaik we don't have anything other than "leaked benchmarks" and a ton of confusion because the 10700K went on sale too early. Supposedly the 11900K is faster than the 10900K (which I also what I'd expect), but at this point this is still rumor level information.

Hmm ok. I might just wait a while before buying my CPU then and see the results of the 11900k when people start getting their hands on it as the maximus xiii hero MB i ordered says it supports 11th gen CPU so it should be able to fit the i9 11900k on the socket right?  

also thanks for the fast reply  

[Eigenvektor]

17 minutes ago, bobzen said:

as the maximus xiii hero MB i ordered says it supports 11th gen CPU so it should be able to fit the i9 11900k on the socket right?

That's what I'd expect, though it is not (yet) listed as a supported CPU: CPU Support

 

So I assume it might require a BIOS update first.

[thepoorgamer]

46 minutes ago, bobzen said:

Hmm ok. I might just wait a while before buying my CPU then and see the results of the 11900k when people start getting their hands on it as the maximus xiii hero MB i ordered says it supports 11th gen CPU so it should be able to fit the i9 11900k on the socket right?  

also thanks for the fast reply  

The mbd will support the 11900k (with a BIOS update), however, it might not support PCIE 4.0. Not all z490 boards do.