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Error causing mining rig to crash in one place but not the other?

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I have a mining rig with 5*1080ti and 1*1080, when I run it at one of my properties, it runs completely fine, no errors but when I bring it to another one of my property, it keeps restarting every couple of minutes. I dont get a BSOD but when I look in the event viewer, i get a critical error with the code 0x8000400000000002 so im not quite sure is wrong, any ideas?

 

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What kind of power hook up is at the second property that causes the BSODs?

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8 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

What kind of power hook up is at the second property that causes the BSODs?

I am not sure but this is what the outlet looks like, also i forgot to mention i am using an EVGA 1600 T2 PSU and another EVGA 750 psu.

 

 

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after googling that error code it says its a kernel power error. one of the suggestions i saw was to update the BIOS.

Also maybe your PSU is on its way out and the power you have at one place is more stable/cleaner than the other and the PSU needs to work harder.

That is a really weird problem though

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3 minutes ago, natsuu said:

I am not sure but this is what the outlet looks like, also i forgot to mention i am using an EVGA 1600 T2 PSU and another EVGA 750 psu.

Which PSU is connected to the 24 pin on the motherboard?

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2 minutes ago, airborne spoon said:

after googling that error code it says its a kernel power error. one of the suggestions i saw was to update the BIOS.

Also maybe your PSU is on its way out and the power you have at one place is more stable/cleaner than the other and the PSU needs to work harder.

That is a really weird problem though

supposedly, the power at the place where its crashing is "business" grade, so idk what that means but its weird

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Just now, BuckGup said:

Which PSU is connected to the 24 pin on the motherboard?

the 1600 T2

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17 minutes ago, natsuu said:

supposedly, the power at the place where its crashing is "business" grade, so idk what that means but its weird

Check what type of breakers or fuses it uses. 2350W is over the typical 15A you would have for houses. If you can maybe try connecting the PSUs on different circuits to balance the load. 

16 minutes ago, natsuu said:

the 1600 T2

Do you have a jumper to start both PSUs or do you have two motherboards?

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4 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Check what type of breakers or fuses it uses. 2350W is over the typical 15A you would have for houses. If you can maybe try connecting the PSUs on different circuits to balance the load. 

Do you have a jumper to start both PSUs or do you have two motherboards?

its not drawing the full 2350W, i used a wattage meter and the max i observed was like 1470, I think the breaker says 20A and I use a jumper on the second psu and the first one is just directly wired onto the motherboard

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1 minute ago, natsuu said:

its not drawing the full 2350W, i used a wattage meter and the max i observed was like 1470, I think the breaker says 20A and I use a jumper on the second psu and the first one is just directly wired onto the motherboard

Have you tried observing the watt meter until the system BSODs? To me it sounds like one of your PSUs is flaky and it isn't an issue until your power is dirty. You could bust out an oscilloscope but what I would do is plug the 750 into the motherboard and load it to the max then fill out the 1600W PSU to see which PSU is unstable. 

 

A simple fix for this could just be a PSU

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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Have you tried observing the watt meter until the system BSODs? To me it sounds like one of your PSUs is flaky and it isn't an issue until your power is dirty. You could bust out an oscilloscope but what I would do is plug the 750 into the motherboard and load it to the max then fill out the 1600W PSU to see which PSU is unstable. 

 

A simple fix for this could just be a PSU

Yeah that a good idea, ill will try that soon but meanwhile, sorry if this is a dumb question, but if the problem is dirty power, is there a solution for that like a UPS or some kind of box that regulates clean power before it delivers it to the computer?

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45 minutes ago, natsuu said:

Yeah that a good idea, ill will try that soon but meanwhile, sorry if this is a dumb question, but if the problem is dirty power, is there a solution for that like a UPS or some kind of box that regulates clean power before it delivers it to the computer?

Yup that's exactly what a UPS will do. Here is a nice thread explaining the difference between a high end PSU and a lower end PSU. 

 

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18 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Yup that's exactly what a UPS will do. Here is a nice thread explaining the difference between a high end PSU and a lower end PSU. 

 

Oh I also saw a power conditioner or line conditioner, are you familiar with that? I just realize a UPS for that power scale is unfeasibly expensive.

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3 minutes ago, natsuu said:

Oh I also saw a power conditioner or line conditioner, are you familiar with that? I just realize a UPS for that power scale is unfeasibly expensive.

I've only ever used conditioners in power strips but I would imagine it would work potentially even better than a UPS as you don't really need the battery backup functionality of it. 

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I am currently looking at this one but im not sure what the difference between the line conditioner and the power conditioner is, google says it that same thing but why are they listing it like that do you know? https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-LC2400-Conditioner-Outlet/dp/B0000514G8/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=line%2Bconditioner%2B20%2Bamp&qid=1614972259&s=electronics&sr=1-2&th=1

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On 3/5/2021 at 2:28 PM, BuckGup said:

I've only ever used conditioners in power strips but I would imagine it would work potentially even better than a UPS as you don't really need the battery backup functionality of it. 

Hmmm I just got the line conditioner but the computer is still having the same issue. Any other ideas im so lost?

 

Thanks in advanced

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1 minute ago, natsuu said:

Hmmm I just got the line conditioner but the computer is still having the same issue. Any other ideas im so lost?

 

Thanks in advanced

Some things I would do. Not in any specific order but you could use a watt meter to see if anything abnormal is going on under load. You could use a multimeter to see if the power suppled at that outlet is good. If you have an oscilloscope you could really see what's happening. Or check how it's connected. Is it the same power cable as before? Have you tried other outlets? Have you tried just using the 1600W or 750W PSU and seeing if it BSODs? Do you have any GFI outlets in your house? 

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30 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Some things I would do. Not in any specific order but you could use a watt meter to see if anything abnormal is going on under load. You could use a multimeter to see if the power suppled at that outlet is good. If you have an oscilloscope you could really see what's happening. Or check how it's connected. Is it the same power cable as before? Have you tried other outlets? Have you tried just using the 1600W or 750W PSU and seeing if it BSODs? Do you have any GFI outlets in your house? 

I used a watt meter and its looks normal under load, but it shuts off around 4-5 minutes after starting, I dont have an oscilloscope and I tired other outlets as well and also tried just using one psu at a time but I still have the same issue. I also do not have a GFI outlet

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18 minutes ago, natsuu said:

I used a watt meter and its looks normal under load, but it shuts off around 4-5 minutes after starting, I dont have an oscilloscope and I tired other outlets as well and also tried just using one psu at a time but I still have the same issue. I also do not have a GFI outlet

I wonder if a PPTC or resettable fuse in your PSU for some reason fails at this house. 4-5 minutes would give it time to heat up and fail and then a BSOD will give it time to cool and allow you to reboot the PC and have the process happen again. It's just extremely weird it happens at one location and not the other. What does your breaker box look like and is there anything special/different about the power connection style, company, or anything from one location to the other?

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14 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I wonder if a PPTC or resettable fuse in your PSU for some reason fails at this house. 4-5 minutes would give it time to heat up and fail and then a BSOD will give it time to cool and allow you to reboot the PC and have the process happen again. It's just extremely weird it happens at one location and not the other. What does your breaker box look like and is there anything special/different about the power connection style, company, or anything from one location to the other?

Wait I just saw this in one of you comments earlier, I switch the PSU that's connected to the motherboard and it worked for some reason, not sure why but it works. Thanks I really appreciate it!

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1 hour ago, natsuu said:

Wait I just saw this in one of you comments earlier, I switch the PSU that's connected to the motherboard and it worked for some reason, not sure why but it works. Thanks I really appreciate it!

Awesome, I would be a little weary of that PSU but if it works and doesn't burn your house down go for it.

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15 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Awesome, I would be a little weary of that PSU but if it works and doesn't burn your house down go for it.

Any idea what caused it to do that? and is it that dangerous should I stop running it?

 

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38 minutes ago, natsuu said:

Any idea what caused it to do that? and is it that dangerous should I stop running it?

 

Well it's mostly likely something on the 24pin as you are just shorting the pins to start the PSU. You could check in the BIOS to see what the voltages are and see if anything is out of wack but I doubt there will be an issue until it's under load. At which you need a PSU checker 

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