TX650M vs. Seasonic Core GM

[flickofdawrist]

My build will be:
- Ryzen 7 5800X
- 32GB RAM 3200MHz CL16

- RTX 3060Ti / 3070

 

I checked the @LukeSavenije's PSU Tier List and I noticed the TX650M was A-Tier and the Seasonic Core GM was B-Tier. In my country they both go for the same price - $99. 
 

I've heard that Seasonic makes better PSUs, so what makes the TX650M better here, and how are they different? I'm confused and I don't know which one to choose. 

[SavageNeo]

Just now, flickofdawrist said:

I've heard that Seasonic makes better PSUs,

Seasonic does not. brand and effiency is the least important things

Just now, flickofdawrist said:

so what makes the TX650M better here

better fan.

 

also you can ask @jonnyGURU

[DailyProcrastinator]

7 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

I noticed the TX650M was A-Tier and the Seasonic Core GM was B-Tier.

A Tier A PSU is better than Tier B. Thus making the decision pretty straight forward. The TXm it is a well made PSU with good warranty.

 

8 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

I've heard that Seasonic makes better PSUs

Seems like an unfound bias, what have you heard that makes SeaSonic better? 

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

My build will be:
- Ryzen 7 5800X
- 32GB RAM 3200MHz CL16

- RTX 3060Ti / 3070

 

I checked the @LukeSavenije's PSU Tier List and I noticed the TX650M was A-Tier and the Seasonic Core GM was B-Tier. In my country they both go for the same price - $99. 
 

I've heard that Seasonic makes better PSUs, so what makes the TX650M better here, and how are they different? I'm confused and I don't know which one to choose. 

The TX650M is a much better PSU than the Core.   The Core is an entry level product.

 

Seasonic, and Corsair for that matter, makes a wide range of products.  You can't make blanket statements like "this brand is better than that brand".  

[flickofdawrist]

18 minutes ago, DailyProcrastinator said:

Seems like an unfound bias, what have you heard that makes SeaSonic better? 

 

15 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

You can't make blanket statements like "this brand is better than that brand".

I was talking to a guy on a similar forum, and he was saying their "electronics" are better (if that's the correct word, english is not my main language).

[DailyProcrastinator]

5 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

 

I was talking to a guy on a similar forum, and he was saying their "electronics" are better (if that's the correct word, english is not my main language).

Without any info to back that up there is no value to that information. Unless someone can provide concrete evidence, than that is a different story, but in this case, it is not. Sounds like this person is just conveying their own personal bias and opinion, not actually providing sound advice or info. 

 

Corsair and Seasonic have both made Good PSU's and Bad PSU's, I personally would not rate one better than the other, it comes down to the specific units you are comparing. And in this instance the Corsair TXm is better. 

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

 

I was talking to a guy on a similar forum, and he was saying their "electronics" are better (if that's the correct word, english is not my main language).

Again.  Blanket statement.  This guy in a similar forum needs to educate himself better.

 

[flickofdawrist]

2 hours ago, DailyProcrastinator said:

Without any info to back that up there is no value to that information. Unless someone can provide concrete evidence, than that is a different story, but in this case, it is not. Sounds like this person is just conveying their own personal bias and opinion, not actually providing sound advice or info. 

 

Corsair and Seasonic have both made Good PSU's and Bad PSU's, I personally would not rate one better than the other, it comes down to the specific units you are comparing. And in this instance the Corsair TXm is better. 

Thanks for the help!

2 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Again.  Blanket statement.  This guy in a similar forum needs to educate himself better.

 

Alright, I'll get the TX650M then. Would you mind telling me what makes it better, please? I'm just curious.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

Would you mind telling me what makes it better, please? I'm just curious.

"Better electronics"

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-tx750m-psu,5062.html

 

(100W more, but mostly the same internals)

[flickofdawrist]

3 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

"Better electronics"

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-tx750m-psu,5062.html

 

(100W more, but mostly the same internals)

I'm not sure what you mean, are you sarcastic with the "better electronics" part? 

Also, why are you linking the TX750M model? I'm looking to buy the TX650M, the 750 version is $25 more. 

[Ankerson]

4 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

I'm not sure what you mean, are you sarcastic with the "better electronics" part? 

 

The Corsair TXM is a higher end PSU, more middle of the road compared to the entry level Seasonic Core. 

 

The TXM uses better, higher end components than the Seasonic Core. 

[Sakee__]

2 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

I'm not sure what you mean, are you sarcastic with the "better electronics" part? 

Also, why are you linking the TX750M model? I'm looking to buy the TX650M, the 750 version is $25 more. 

The 750W model uses the same platform and similar quality components. Also, Seasonic Core is such a disgusting power supply.

[flickofdawrist]

3 minutes ago, Sakee__ said:

The 750W model uses the same platform and similar quality components. Also, Seasonic Core is such a disgusting power supply.

Okay, but still, I don't need 750W for my build. So there's no point in spending $25 more.

[Sakee__]

1 minute ago, flickofdawrist said:

Okay, but still, I don't need 750W for my build. So there's no point in spending $25 more.

I think you misunderstood what I tried to say. You don't need such a powerful power supply, but you can use its review to know if the 650W one is good or not.

[flickofdawrist]

3 minutes ago, Sakee__ said:

I think you misunderstood what I tried to say. You don't need such a powerful power supply, but you can use its review to know if the 650W one is good or not.

Oh, gotcha.

[Ankerson]

33 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

Okay, but still, I don't need 750W for my build. So there's no point in spending $25 more.

 

650W is the BARE MIN required for an RTX 3070.

 

So if one was buying a PSU then it would be better to get a 750W vers for more headroom for future upgrades, that and better cabling options.

 

But if one already had the 650W PSU then just use that, but I wouldn't buy the 650W PSU now.

 

So you can spend the $25 now or end up buying two PSUs overall once you upgrade or whatever later on.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, flickofdawrist said:

Okay, but still, I don't need 750W for my build. So there's no point in spending $25 more.

I'm not saying you need a 750W.  I linked you to a 750W review because there is no review of the 650W, but if you read the review, you can get the gist as to why the TX-M is a very good PSU.

 

[flickofdawrist]

10 hours ago, Ankerson said:

 

650W is the BARE MIN required for an RTX 3070.

 

So if one was buying a PSU then it would be better to get a 750W vers for more headroom for future upgrades, that and better cabling options.

 

But if one already had the 650W PSU then just use that, but I wouldn't buy the 650W PSU now.

 

So you can spend the $25 now or end up buying two PSUs overall once you upgrade or whatever later on.

I doubt I'll upgrade my rig anytime soon. But thanks.

[flickofdawrist]

9 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

I'm not saying you need a 750W.  I linked you to a 750W review because there is no review of the 650W, but if you read the review, you can get the gist as to why the TX-M is a very good PSU.

 

I see now. I found the RM750 (I guess it's the grey version, right?) at $10 more.

What do you think about it compared to TX650M? Is it worth the price difference?

[Mateyyy]

30 minutes ago, flickofdawrist said:

I see now. I found the RM750 (I guess it's the grey version, right?) at $10 more.

What do you think about it compared to TX650M? Is it worth the price difference?

Sounds like quite a decent deal for only $10 more. The main advantage of the RM will be in the noise department, as the TXM does have a fairly aggressive fan curve, as opposed to the RM's which is much more relaxed.

 

Or you could grab the TXM and get a pizza with the tenner you save. Or a burger. Or a coffee. Or whatever you're into.

Either of the two units shouldn't have any problems powering a 5800X and RTX 3060Ti/3070, and if you reckon you won't mind a tiny bit of extra noise under load, the TXM is a very solid option.

[SavageNeo]

1 hour ago, flickofdawrist said:

I see now. I found the RM750 (I guess it's the grey version, right?) at $10 more.

What do you think about it compared to TX650M? Is it worth the price difference?

RM is generally lower quality.

TXM is rated at 50C while RM is 40C

TXM has all japanese caps, RM does not. 

 

RM does have crappier fan, but not so agressive curve. Also rm is fully modular. Out of these i would get the TX650M. your system will likely pull around 450-500w and can sometimes spike up to 550w on full stress. at gaming it will be under 500w anyway.

[flickofdawrist]

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

Sounds like quite a decent deal for only $10 more. The main advantage of the RM will be in the noise department, as the TXM does have a fairly aggressive fan curve, as opposed to the RM's which is much more relaxed.

 

Or you could grab the TXM and get a pizza with the tenner you save. Or a burger. Or a coffee. Or whatever you're into.

Either of the two units shouldn't have any problems powering a 5800X and RTX 3060Ti/3070, and if you reckon you won't mind a tiny bit of extra noise under load, the TXM is a very solid option.

How audible is the noise? I'll probably buy the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Perfomance which is already at 43dBA according to Gamers Nexus.

[electropical]

5 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

RM is generally lower quality.

TXM is rated at 50C while RM is 40C

TXM has all japanese caps, RM does not. 

 

RM does have crappier fan, but not so agressive curve. Also rm is fully modular. Out of these i would get the TX650M. your system will likely pull around 450-500w and can sometimes spike up to 550w on full stress. at gaming it will be under 500w anyway.

Actually, the RM is significantly better  than the TXM.

They both deliver full power at 50°C, and they both use a Hong Hua fan.

 

As a matter of fact, the TXM is louder because the PSU housing was designed for a round fan frame, while the fan has a square frame. A lot of air escapes from the sides, which forces the fan to spin faster to compensate for the loss of static pressure.

 

Also, the RM doesn't trip with flagship Ampere cards, and the Teapo caps are good enough, certainly not a deal breaker.

 

For 10 dollars, I would pick the RM750 over the TX650M, no hesitation. 

[Kindle]

14 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

but if you read the review, you can get the gist as to why the TX-M is a very good PSU.

Because it failed transient response test? Or because it's ripple is worse than 60$ PSUs have?

[boghubodaghi]

5 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

RM is generally lower quality.

TXM is rated at 50C while RM is 40C

TXM has all japanese caps, RM does not. 

 

RM does have crappier fan, but not so agressive curve. Also rm is fully modular. Out of these i would get the TX650M. your system will likely pull around 450-500w and can sometimes spike up to 550w on full stress. at gaming it will be under 500w anyway.

As @electropical pointed out, they're both 50C rated. The RM might have worse fan (brand wise), but it is bigger, so it can spin at lower speeds. This is why the fan curve can be less aggresive. I am also not a proponent of Japanese capacitors being a must, because the advantages are not exactly clear. Some Taiwanese caps can outlive Japanese ones in some cases. So my vote goes for the RM 750.