New build, looking for thoughts

[thekap2]

Budget (including currency): 

Country: us

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: vr

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  building a mini itx vr build, going to put an rtx 3080 in, 32 gb of corsair dominator ram, the big question is do I do the new strix z590-i with a i9 11900k or a strix x570-i with a ryzen 9 5950x.  This will be a custom water cooled system.

 

[CreativeName642]

Very good PC

[Downkey]

7 minutes ago, thekap2 said:

Budget (including currency): 

Country: us

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: vr

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  building a mini itx vr build, going to put an rtx 3080 in, 32 gb of corsair dominator ram, the big question is do I do the new strix z590-i with a i9 11900k or a strix x570-i with a ryzen 9 5950x.  This will be a custom water cooled system.

 

budget?

[Guest]

Those two cpu's are not even comparable. The i9 is 8c/16t vs 16c/32t for the 5950X. You don't need a 16 core cpu for VR gaming anyway.

[thekap2]

1 hour ago, Downkey said:

budget?

2000 to 2500 for mobo and cpu

[thekap2]

3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Those two cpu's are not even comparable. The i9 is 8c/16t vs 16c/32t for the 5950X. You don't need a 16 core cpu for VR gaming anyway.

So I guess I should say vr and other gaming, basically I want no gaming bottleneck.  That being said, it looks like the i9 wins in single core performance but ryzen wins in multicore.  Are any games taking advantage of multicore yet or is single core still more important for games?  I am a firm believer in why not have more power, but i also want what is best for the use case.  I am building this in a corsair 1000d and will be redoing my 8 year old lga 2066 workstation build in the next couple of years, waiting to see what the next intel x series chipset looks like before I jump to amd.

[IkeaGnome]

11 minutes ago, thekap2 said:

So I guess I should say vr and other gaming, basically I want no gaming bottleneck.  That being said, it looks like the i9 wins in single core performance but ryzen wins in multicore.  Are any games taking advantage of multicore yet or is single core still more important for games?  I am a firm believer in why not have more power, but i also want what is best for the use case.  I am building this in a corsair 1000d and will be redoing my 8 year old lga 2066 workstation build in the next couple of years, waiting to see what the next intel x series chipset looks like before I jump to amd.

I'm curious where you found benchmarks for the 11900k at. Got any links?

[thekap2]

29 minutes ago, Voluspa said:

I'm curious where you found benchmarks for the 11900k at. Got any links?

Seen the same thing from alot of articles but here is one.  https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-teases-i9-11900K-s-11-lead-over-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-in-PCMark-10-benchmark-and-a-new-CPU-Z-run-confirms-the-Rocket-Lake-chip-s-position-as-a-single-core-sovereign.524198.0.html

[Guest]

16 hours ago, thekap2 said:

So I guess I should say vr and other gaming, basically I want no gaming bottleneck.  That being said, it looks like the i9 wins in single core performance but ryzen wins in multicore.  Are any games taking advantage of multicore yet or is single core still more important for games?  I am a firm believer in why not have more power, but i also want what is best for the use case.  I am building this in a corsair 1000d and will be redoing my 8 year old lga 2066 workstation build in the next couple of years, waiting to see what the next intel x series chipset looks like before I jump to amd.

You don't need a massive amount of cores for gaming. The 6 core AMD/Intel cpu's are still more than good enough for that. Also assuming you are gaming at 1440p or above then you are getting more gpu bound. At 4K you wouldn't see much difference between an i9 10900K and an R5 3600 for example.

 

The 11th gen is supposedly out this month, so not that long to wait. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

You don't need a massive amount of cores for gaming. The 6 core AMD/Intel cpu's are still more than good enough for that. Also assuming you are gaming at 1440p or above then you are getting more gpu bound. At 4K you wouldn't see much difference between an i9 10900K and an R5 3600 for example.

 

The 11th gen is supposedly out this month, so not that long to wait. Then I would choose either the 11700K/11900K or the 5800X (5900X if you want a bit of overkill) if going with Ryzen.