This is just depressing... (Plus so many people are CRAZY)

[Ar558a]

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/gpu-pricing-index

[SEAL62]

Many things contributing to the problem. scalpers, miners, covid, greedy corpos with their almost paper launches. So you could say that this should have been expected.

[tkurgpold]

i'm really enjoying not having a functioning computer. scalpers are so great, man.

[kelvinhall05]

GPUs, especially high-end modern ones, are a luxury, not a necessity. This is how the free market and supply/demand works.

 

 

The depressing part is how many people continue to whine about it.

[Slayer3032]

I went on ebay last night and found out Vega 56's are going for $600+.

 

I remember when $230 didn't even seem like a good deal for one.

[Zodiark1593]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/9793/best-cpus#comments

 

Pretty much find a new hobby, or grab a (last gen?) console if you’re looking for a new system to game on. 

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, kelvinhall05 said:

GPUs, especially high-end modern ones, are a luxury, not a necessity. This is how the free market and supply/demand works.

 

 

The depressing part is how many people continue to whine about it.

Depends tho. For me a decent computer is necessary to make enough money to sustain myself so I do not consider it a luxury but a necessary tool. Of course like any tool if it's good enough for the job keep using it but if a better tool would increase your work and cashflow significantly then I'd say it's time to upgrade.

 

I'm fine on what I have now but it sure would suck if my vega would give up then I'd be pretty annoyed by the prices but in the end be like whatever and, buy a card that is a decent upgrade and get it over with overpriced or not.

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

I went on ebay last night and found out Vega 56's are going for $600+.

 

I remember when $230 didn't even seem like a good deal for one.

Got mine for 180$ with it's own waterloop (the alphacool eiswolf) about 2 years ago now crazy how much it's worth now.

[xg32]

ampere prices directly correlates to eth prices, when eth was 1200 the 3080 was around 1200, and a 3090 didn't really get too much above 2k. Gaming's basically a secondary feature now that miners are willing to pay more and buy in bulk.

[Nena Trinity]

Nvidia can fix it, stop these mindless mining cards on 12/16nm and mass produce the 2060 with 12GB VRAM & 2060Super with 16GB VRAM! That way the miners can take all the 3060s if they want em so badly and the gamers can do fine with a less power efficient card. ^_^ 

[MadPistol]

There are ways to overcome the "scalping" issue. The first is to stop buying from them. The second is to figure out a method to track when cards drop and be ready to jump on them when they do.

As for the "whining", I do feel the pain of those that have held out this long to try and get a new card, but if you have a GPU that's good enough, keep it until you get another. The big issue I have seen everywhere is that people sold their old cards before they got a new one, and thus were left stranded with a PC and no GPU. This is ALWAYS a risky maneuver, and this time, it really bit some people in the butt.

GPUs are a luxury item; you don't need one unless you're using it for accelerated visual computing work that takes advantage of the GPGPU capabilities. I maintain that if you have to sell your old one to be able to afford a new one, you can't afford the new one.

[marldorthegreat]

12 minutes ago, Nena Trinity said:

Nvidia can fix it, stop these mindless mining cards on 12/16nm and mass produce the 2060 with 12GB VRAM & 2060Super with 16GB VRAM! That way the miners can take all the 3060s if they want em so badly and the gamers can do fine with a less power efficient card. ^_^ 

One could argue that they don't have to, they are making money whoever buys them.

But then one could also argue that long term, when the market crashes (again) the second hand market will be flooded with GPUs and the prices will crash, meaning Nvidia (And AMD) will lose future revenue because of the massive amount of second hand GPU's hanging around

 

Also pretty sure the reason they can't just mass produce them is because there is a huge silicone shortage, not just from Samsung but across the entire industry, leading to less supply. To the extent that President Biden is acting on it, because it is now effecting things like car production. 

[Nena Trinity]

1 minute ago, marldorthegreat said:

One could argue that they don't have to, they are making money whoever buys them.

But then one could also argue that long term, when the market crashes (again) the second hand market will be flooded with GPUs and the prices will crash, meaning Nvidia (And AMD) will lose future revenue because of the massive amount of second hand GPU's hanging around

 

Also pretty sure the reason they can't just mass produce them is because there is a huge silicone shortage, not just from Samsung but across the entire industry, leading to less supply. To the extent that President Biden is acting on it, because it is now effecting things like car production. 

Yeah what is he gonna do? What ever he does it will take up to 2-3 years if not more... By that time the PS5 and XBONE will not have profited on nextgen games and they migth have to push PS4 and XBONE titles for another 2-3 years since gamers cannot get the damn console, PC games? If you think the CONSOLES held back gaming before what will they do when they have to make stuff run on 2014 hardware for both? X-X